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#168: Raiders of the Lost Health: the Alkaline Diet/Strong Bone Connection – with Dr. Susan Brown

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She went from digging up old bones to strengthening live bones!  

What a fascinating career arc!

We don’t know if she wore a fedora or carried a bullwhip. But we do know that this episode’s guest – Dr. Susan Brown – started as an anthropologist studying South American cultures. 

Dr. Brown loved her work back in those days. However, her destiny took a surprise turn (this happens to our guests a lot), as fate planted two seeds into Dr. Susan’s fertile mind while working as a young anthropologist. 

According to Dr. Brown, the first seed was her health. “I didn’t have perfect health, so I always had an eye toward how I could maximize my health.” 

The second seed that impacted Dr. Brown’s destiny had to do with her dearly loved grandmother, who, at age 101, fell and broke her hip. The results from this tragic incident left a deep impression on our guest – particularly her future interest in bone health. Dr. Brown is the author of the bestselling book Better Bones, Better Body

Along the way, Dr. Brown also became a pioneering thought leader in the acid/alkaline niche. Her bestselling book, The Acid Alkaline Food Guide, has been translated into seven languages.  

Pour yourself a healthy beverage and enjoy as Wade asks Dr. Brown many compelling questions. With her decades of experience – 1000+ published articles included – this noted researcher provides incredible insights on pH balance, the alkaline diet, and natural bone health. 

Dr. Brown is the founder of the Center for Better Bones and Alkaline for Life. Her six-point natural program helps tens of thousands of women take control of their health to enjoy long, active, happy lives. 

Be sure to tune in and discover what this medical anthropologist and certified nutritionist says on the alkaline diet, exercise, digestion, detoxification, and the 20 essential bone-building nutrients. 

In this podcast, we cover:

  • One advantage women have over men that help them generally be less acidic
  • Dr. Susan’s grandmother’s often overlooked vitamin deficiency
  • Where you find strong bones and weak bones among various cultures
  • The many functions of our bones in the body
  • The effects of modern industrialization on bones
  • The fundamentals of Dr. Brown’s views of acidic vs. alkaline diet
  • The number you want to see when you test your pH level
  • What happens when your body is too acidic
  • Foods that contribute to an acidic body 
  • Foods that promote an alkaline body
  • Natural allergies and autoimmune disorders tied to acidic diets
  • Why the alkaline diet is the best way to eat

One shocking way our bones keep us healthy.

Here is a slice of what Dr. Brown shares on bone health: “An important function with bones that we don’t think about is how they are a storage site for toxic metals.”

“When the body gets exposed to cadmium or lead, it doesn’t want to deal with it, so the body shoves these toxic metals into the bone to keep it out of circulation.”

“This is why you see menopausal or pregnant women dealing with these toxins that get stored in bone.”

“Another thing about bone is it requires a lot of energy. I think it’s second to the brain for oxygen utilization – a very active tissue.”

“Right now, there are two million spots in your body where you’re tearing down old pieces of bone and putting in new pieces of bone. Those two million cells work hard, looking for bone damage.”

One Little Known Trick to Keeping Your Body in Alkaline Balance

Dr. Susan: “You want balance. One of the major solidifying forces for this is protein. When you metabolize protein, you produce sulfuric acid, just like when you burn fossil fuel.”

“So people often say, ‘I shouldn’t eat protein.’ But you need protein. So, it’s good to remember that it’s only excess protein that acidifies the body. Depending on how much you exercise and the bulk of your body, maybe 60, 70, or 80 grams of protein is fine.”

“But excess protein is acid-forming, along with a whole series of processed foods like refined carbohydrates, sugars, alcohol is highly acid-forming, caffeine is acid-forming.” 

“And then there are all these synthetic, denatured foods – like marshmallows.”

“But we have developed a chart in my book The Acid Alkaline Food Guide that tells you whether a food is highly alkaline, moderately alkaline or localizing…or whether its acid forming and to what degree. For example, beef is more acidic than fish – it has to do with the content of the protein.” 

There are treasures of knowledge to be found when you listen to Dr. Susan. She is the Indiana Jones of alkaline diets – the Jane Ellen Buikstra of bone health. Tune in and find out how to tune up your bones while lowering your body’s acidity. Acidity causes inflammation. We all need to keep that low by maintaining a healthy level of alkalinity. Dr. Susan shows how to do both.

Check out this episode – time to feel better and get stronger! 

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Read The Episode Transcript

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Wade Lightheart: 321 good morning good afternoon and good evening it's weighty light heart from by optimizer is with another edition of the awesome health podcast and today we have joining us Dr Susan Brown.

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Wade Lightheart: And she is with alkaline for life she's going to talk about an alkaline diet.

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Wade Lightheart: Natural allergy in auto immune and bone health and Dr Susan Brown is a best selling author.

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Wade Lightheart: Of the acid alkaline food guide, which has been translated into seven languages and better bones better body she's a noted researcher inspirational speaker and the founder and Center for better bones and alkaline for life.

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Wade Lightheart: In her decades of experience, she has authored more than 1000 articles and produced hundreds of videos on pH balance the alkaline diet and natural bone health.

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Wade Lightheart: Dr brown pioneered the natural approach to bone health for over 30 years she was the first to prove.

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Wade Lightheart: That using only natural methods nearly every woman could build strong bones for life, incorporating her research and the latest science her six point.

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Wade Lightheart: Natural program, including the alkaline diet exercise digestion detoxification and the 20 key bone building nutrients has helped 10s of thousands of women take control of their health and enjoy long active happy lives, Dr Susan brown welcome to the show.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Thank you very much i'm delighted to be here.

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Wade Lightheart: 1000 articles.

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Wade Lightheart: I mean that's just amazing and, first and foremost, I think a little bit of history and background.

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Wade Lightheart: I got first turned on to the benefits of of an alkaline diet, years ago, when I had my physical crisis from my bodybuilding years and and it came around and learned about digestion enzymes and probiotics.

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Wade Lightheart: In the course of a plant based for 20 years, which is very interesting and so i'm pretty well versed in the subject but not nearly as well sourced and well.

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Wade Lightheart: knowledgeable as yourself, so how did you get started with this whole concept of pH balance bone health and the importance, particularly for women, because a lot of women suffer from this extensively are women more susceptible to pH and balance problems.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, they certainly are more susceptible to bonus us because they have smaller bones, and then.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And so, they have to take special care and with the menopause they tend to lose more bone but as far as pH issues, everyone is on an equal playing field, in fact, women are a little it have an advantage because they pay more attention to food.

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Dr. Susan Brown: it's women more have kind of an awareness that what we make some difference, maybe because they nurture children they see that it makes a difference and so.

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Dr. Susan Brown: They tend to eat more fruits and vegetables nuts and seeds and men who are out there and just grab a sandwich and a beer and say hey i'm fine.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Right so yeah your beer and pretzels dinner isn't that very localized.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Women i've got a better chance.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I think a better chance.

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Wade Lightheart: So, how did you fall into this and he was it my intention was in an accident was it a life experience.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well that's What happened was it, I am an anthropologist I began my career as an anthropologist studying cross cultural particularly South America, studying domestic organization and and I was having a glowing anthropology.

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Dr. Susan Brown: But I didn't have perfect health, and so I always had an eye toward you know how could I maximize my health, but then, when I was.

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Dr. Susan Brown: When I was working as an anthropologist a young anthropologist my grandmother, who I really love.

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Dr. Susan Brown: fractured and broke her hip at the age of 101 she was so in a bathtub I don't know why we left her alone in a bathtub at the age of 101 but she was and she fell and broke her hip and she went to bed.

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Dr. Susan Brown: and her everyone said, should you go to the doctor, she said no i've been there before she said i've taken care of my son's for 100 years they can take care of me, and she just spent the year in bed, she was wonderfully clear of mine.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And she passed away at 102 and I always wondered how long she would have lived if she didn't have that fracture now the interesting thing in her case was he had both osteoporosis, she had fractured.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Like many women, the path is, first, you may be for extra risk or your fractured collarbone then eventually you lose some haiku spinal fractures.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And the final fracture is usually hip fracture and she had she had asked your process, but she had rickets also she had a vitamin D deficiency.

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Dr. Susan Brown: which we don't recognize so much anymore I didn't recognize it until a friend of mine from South America said hey you know she has rickets because you develop these both legs.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Because the bone isn't strong enough to support the body and that of course is vitamin D deficiency.

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Dr. Susan Brown: that's something that we're so aware of the importance of vitamin D now, especially with this whole coven situation.

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Dr. Susan Brown: But, so my grandmother, I thought gosh I wish if I know, then what I know now how long she would she have lived.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And Darren about the same time I go to the dentist and the dentist says, you know you have a you have signs of up some receding gums you should go see a periodontist well i'd already known that that was an early sign of bone loss.

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Dr. Susan Brown: So I said.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I better study this and then I got really deeply involved in the study of bone and the study of how we around the world, my first book was really looking around the world and.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Does everyone suffer this problem that may be a quarter of the women or third of the woman fractured.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And it's it doesn't happen all over the world, so I was very fascinated where do people have strong bones, where do people have weaker bones, and how can we develop strong bones here.

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Dr. Susan Brown: So that was my story closely tied to my grandmother, and my own experience, like, I heard your experience to you know many of us, we have an issue and we work to deal with it and that's how we got so passionate about it.

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Wade Lightheart: So now i'm curious is where is the strong bone humans and where are the week bone humans and why.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, yes right, even in Europe, different parts of Europe will have a greatly dramatic different fracture rate and it's really a lot to do with levels of physical activity levels of traditional lifestyles, where people cultivated the food ate the food worked outside.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Certainly many populations, like the African populations fractures almost unknown, they have a much stronger bone structure, plus they get plenty of sunlight exposure.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Originally, when I did the study 20 years ago 25 years ago there was much less fracture in China now we see that around the world is the cultures become modernized and everyone is taking on this Western diet.

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Dr. Susan Brown: or this diet of highly processed foods, you see a greater incidence of fracture many, many countries there's still a big difference cross culturally, but particularly in hip fracture rates but it's becoming with modernization companies fractures.

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Wade Lightheart: So when when you switched into the and started really diving into this isn't it because i'm an anthropologist.

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Wade Lightheart: Maya how did that impact or effect, how you were looking at this kind of equation or this this challenge.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, you see, from an anthropological perspective when you think about is you think about, is it really true like they would say that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: That women then menopause was a big cause of osteoporosis, I said wasn't really true does everyone around the world in all cultures do women lose a lot of bone during menopause and the research, I did.

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Dr. Susan Brown: They would compare some of the Mayan Indians and some of the Greek peasants in that in it, it was very different there were cultures, where women lost very little during menopause and so like questions like that, and you, you try to see what's universal and occurs in every culture.

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Dr. Susan Brown: or just what what occurs in various cultures, because of learned behaviors so is a comparative thing of diet and disease around the world and health, health patterns around the world.

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Dr. Susan Brown: But quickly quickly It moved into wow we have staggering statistics here of bone weakness and why is that and what can we do to improve our own bone health, how do we.

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Dr. Susan Brown: How do we understand boned enough to be able to intervene and build healthy bones it's sort of it's sort of interesting right, because every animal in the forest has perfect bonus.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Right, in fact, you know I almost wrote the book I almost called it, the bonds I bone because what do we do that keeps bone from being healthy it's such a natural.

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Dr. Susan Brown: imperative to just grow healthy bones we don't have to do anything but we're doing far too many things that limit the health of bone.

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Wade Lightheart: Well, I think a lot of people don't understand too that bone is a very dynamic part of our body it's like most people think of these kind of rigid things that don't do any.

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Wade Lightheart: But that's you kind of explain.

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Wade Lightheart: It into the do's and don'ts of bone health what bones do other than hold up our bodies and something muscles attached to.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, you know that's a really very big question because that's part of the whole reason you could.

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Dr. Susan Brown: You could write enough to study 1000 to write 1000 articles because bone has many, many functions within the body.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And apropos what we're speaking about today one of the big functions of bone is to serve as a reserve for alkaline minerals compounds the body.

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Dr. Susan Brown: must maintain a very specific pH balance in order to support life, a very narrow window, like the blood has to be 7.35 to 7.4 or five pH or you will die.

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Dr. Susan Brown: So you can't have too much variation and one of the ways the body assures, that is, the bones serve as a gigantic reservoir of these Alkali compounds.

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Dr. Susan Brown: calcium compounds phosphorus compounds that can be drawn out when the pH just just goes a little bit too acidic so the bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Is a gigantic reservoir of Alkali reserve a lot of your magnesium a lot of your potassium the vast majority of calcium.

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Dr. Susan Brown: is stored in the bone in fact I am this little statistic here I don't know we usually don't recognize it like i'm like 40% or 50% of the sodium is in bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Another 50% even 80% of the magnesium is in bone as well as 100% of the calcium so minerals it stores minerals.

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Dr. Susan Brown: attached to minerals are alkaline compounds minerals don't stand alone in the body, maybe to sit trader carbonate that substance alkaline so bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: supports pH balance bone also, of course, is an incubator we know for white blood cells.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And for certain hormones like us to calcium, but now we're discovering a whole bunch of hormones that are produced within the bone itself that go through the whole body.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And that is a really very important function and bone we don't think of it but it's also a storage site for toxic metals, when the body gets exposed to cadmium or lead it doesn't want to deal with it it's just shoves it in bone and to keep it out of circulation wow.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And what happens when you lose bone that goes into circulation.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Right So you see, in menopause or pregnancy toxic levels go up in women because they're having to deal with all these toxins that are stored in bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Actually there's so many, many functions of bone and it requires bone requires that's another thing requires a lot of energy.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Right, because I think it's second to the brain for oxygen utilization very, very active tissue.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Constantly right now there's 2 million spots 2 million spots in your body, where you're tearing down old pieces of bone and putting in new pieces of bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Those 2 million cells are working very strongly to to sense, where there is damage, for example, it's really you, you want to hear the story, I mean is these stories are all little complicated ways I tell you one or two more ones.

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Wade Lightheart: yeah love it.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Okay, so you know you have been building cells right asked to bless these guys lay down that that college and stuff that then becomes mineralized well some of those little cells get buried in the bone they're making.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And they become what's called us to sites they become bone cells now those bone cells get buried there and what they do is they develop these little filaments and those filaments connect one to the other, so the whole.

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Dr. Susan Brown: network of information in the bone is connected, so they sense hey there's a little bit of weakness, here they send the message out let's rebuild this back.

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Dr. Susan Brown: lumen weakness, they are less revealed that spot those those little filaments if you put them into end go halfway to the moon and back, I mean it's just that the network of intelligence in the human body.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We can't comprehend it with our little minds that's why i'm so fascinated because just studying one bone cell, you can see the wonders of the whole of this creation it's absolutely amazing.

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Wade Lightheart: it's truly remarkable the the human body i've never gotten tired learning about it and there's always seems to be something new to learn.

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Wade Lightheart: I want to circle back to.

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Wade Lightheart: Your research and what you found with you know kind of industrialization and how that's impacting bone degeneration I think that's a relation that we can make what specifically do you feel is is contributing to the degradation of bone tissue.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, you know ring way you know you talk specifically like every day we're reviewing the literature like here.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Many today, I was reviewing Articles three or four of them were on pollution and damage to bone now we wouldn't even think of that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Or we wouldn't think of Blanco phosphates, which actually acidify the body which there are so many things we do the damage bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The suit the kind of things, everyone would think of and probably the some of the biggest ones are, of course, the lack of physical activity this body was designed to move, and if we do not move.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We are the body is not going to waste energy developing muscle or bone that you don't need, you know that as a trainer, you know very well that that's the issue, I mean today.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We can we don't even have to, we can speak a word and turn on a light, we don't have to do anything you know and the human body is becoming.

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Dr. Susan Brown: it's it's designed for it so physical activity is a really big the biggest impact on bone is muscles pulling on the bone the attendance and the muscles loading the bone.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And so the lack of physical activity is very great, of course, then you do get to the outstanding nutrient depletion you know we're a fat country, we have a 40% of our food.

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Dr. Susan Brown: In each household is wasted We have lots of food, but we're poorly nourished and, in fact, a recent study in New York state show that it's 30% of the people didn't have one fruit or one vegetable in any given day.

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Dr. Susan Brown: yeah and this they follow similar all over the country, you know that there's there is such a week it's so easy to move we've moved to process D natured foods which don't have the same nutrient content and it's become an everyday way of life.

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Wade Lightheart: Well, in your book The acid alkaline food God.

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Wade Lightheart: What is what is that about can you like, when you saying the acid alkaline food bye bye are you promoting acid, are you promoting alkaline like what is what is that all about so that people can understand that ratio, because I think there's a lot of.

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Wade Lightheart: conjecture and Miss identifications of acid alkaline is this farming is that alkaline forming is acid bad is alkaline bad what's the whole story there.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Though story well it's it's it's a little complicated topic in that pH balance is a is a thing of chemistry.

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Dr. Susan Brown: You know how much acid there isn't any solution, and this particular chemistry of our body requires a particular pH, as I mentioned, you have your pH has to be slightly alkaline in the blood or you die and so.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The body has many mechanisms, just like we produce lots of acids just from breathing metabolizes food, most of them are buffered automatically when I exhale i'm exhaling carbon dioxide, which is an acid, which is carbonic acid.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The protein in my body buffers so the kidney buffers acid, so the body is always having this chemical dance which turning.

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Dr. Susan Brown: acids, which are substances that can that have hydrogen excess free hydrogen ions free hydrogen is the essence of an acid, it can either X.

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Dr. Susan Brown: A base could accept an s hydrogen and neutralize that acid and an alkaline can actually that's an alkaline so basic and buffer that acid and so there's always a stance of things that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: acids becoming basis basis becoming so to maintain a balance, the body does not over millions of years of evolution it's established that the pH balance is quite fixed.

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Dr. Susan Brown: However, there is one area where you can collect acids, and that is through an imbalance diet, because nature sort of was depending that we would have enough fruits and vegetables nuts and seeds.

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Dr. Susan Brown: To buffer the acids, we were exposed to every day and that generally works if you just produce, we can we can buffer probably 50 million equivalence of acid with our.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Our capacities, but, most people have 100 mil equivalence of acid, and so they have an acid surplus of them.

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Dr. Susan Brown: has to be either tucked away in tissue in it, but it really disturbed cellular functioning So how can we say this simply that we evolved in an environment where we had lots of base in our diet lots of alkaline using substances, and those are mineral compounds.

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Dr. Susan Brown: That can help to neutralize to take on hydrogen ions take on acid, and so we evolved in that situation, the whole chemistry is dependent on that it's like it's linked very much the major base source in our diet is potassium so we could say we've all done a high potassium diet.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The potassium in food is generally in fruits and vegetables is citrate that potassium citrate is what alkaline and you could say that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: magnesium is another really key nutrient that establishes the perfect self the chemistry for the cells to function well, like if you just have a tiny acidic tilt enough.

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Dr. Susan Brown: You don't notice too much you may be tired you mean I feel great but it's enough to alter the protein production of the body and it's enough to alter ATP production in fact we've written some articles on the at the details of how just a slight tilt.

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Dr. Susan Brown: To acidity and can cause the bone break down cells to get really busy and break down cells and the bone build up cells to become less active slight variations and pH can be induced by diet and they can make a big difference.

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Wade Lightheart: But what are some things that some dietary choices you kind of talked on the alkaline side fruits, vegetables, these things, what are the things that acidify our body or that we shouldn't be maybe avoid or or or reduce.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, what happens if you want balance right, so you could say the majors one major certifying force, of course, is protein, because when you metabolize protein you produce the sulfuric acid, just like when you burn a fossil fuel and so.

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Dr. Susan Brown: People often say, well, I shouldn't eat protein, but you need protein and it's good to remember that it's only excess protein that acidify the body so maybe 60 7080 grams of protein depending how much.

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Dr. Susan Brown: exercise and the bulk of your body is fine, but excess protein is acid forming a whole series of processed foods like like like refined carbohydrates and sugars and alcohol is very acid forming caffeine is acid forming.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And then, a whole bunch of all these synthetic D natured foods that we have like you know marshmallows and you know there's we've developed that you can you can develop a chart.

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Dr. Susan Brown: According to the mineral content of those foods mainly the amino acid profile, so we in the book The acid alkaline food guide we actually take each food and say whether it's highly.

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Dr. Susan Brown: alkaline using moderately alkaline or localizing those are basically the fruits nuts and seeds vegetables or whether it's acid forming and what degree to it like beef is more acid forming then fish, it has to do with the content of the protein.

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Wade Lightheart: So overall you would suggest that you want to move towards a more alkaline diet.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Is that work, yes, because you know the alkaline diet really suggest a high mineral diet and a whole foods diet, a whole foods high mineral diet in order to get those those plant compounds that are very localized that's right.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Right yes.

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Wade Lightheart: Okay now one of the other topics that we kind of touched on, you talked about bone health but another area that is interesting is.

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Wade Lightheart: Natural allergies and auto immune you one of the topics, I think that a lot of people are concerned about today.

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Wade Lightheart: Specifically, is how do they bolster their immune system or people who are suffering from allergic reactions from a variety of compounds or chemicals.

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Wade Lightheart: Is there a relation between those two topics are they independent, or is there, something that you can share with our audience that may be beneficial of you know, keeping their immune system strong.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, you know.

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Dr. Susan Brown: If we wanted to link back to what we talked before we get talked about the alkaline diet and because if you can localize your chemistry and the one thing we have champion.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Is a simple test the first morning urine test to look at your pH because.

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Dr. Susan Brown: If your pH is at a particular level first morning urine like 6.5 to 7.5 what they really means is that you have enough minerals to buffer the essence, so that is a perfect setting for the cells to function better.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And so that relates to autoimmune disease and relates to allergy it's one of the base foundation concerns we have for.

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Dr. Susan Brown: For any of our programs for bone or autoimmune or allergy is to pay really good attention to that pH because you can't repair the body, if you don't have these essential nutrients, particularly the minerals.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And because cell functioning is so dependent particularly magnesium is so very important to sell functioning.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And you can so if you pay attention to your pH you can see, this little simple first morning urine it can give you idea, do I have mineral adequacy and certainly allergies and autoimmune disease you can't.

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Dr. Susan Brown: You you can't get around the need to look at repair right, I mean an LG is about proteins that have leaked through the god got into the bloodstream the white blood cell is nervous and jittery attacks.

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Dr. Susan Brown: autoimmune disease is really an advancement on that, where the white blood cells get really nervous and jittery and attack parts of your own body itself.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And that's it all is the correction is all based on repairing the tissue enhancing digestion repairing the leaky gut.

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Dr. Susan Brown: incapacitating the body to absorb foreign particles without becoming super hyperactive about them and, of course, that is diet it's it's.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The white blood cells getting nervous and jittery just like we get nervous and jittery so I mean this whole thing of meditation stress reduction.

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Dr. Susan Brown: there's a whole program that we use for autoimmune disease and certainly a program for allergy, I guess, one thing people don't recognize, is that we think of allergy.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We think of immediate responses, you know, every time I smell this I get a headache or every time I eat this food I get a high those are immediate reactions, they curve, maybe, maybe they occur within an hour.

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Dr. Susan Brown: But Wayne what percentage of reactions, do you think are delayed that can take a week or several several days.

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Wade Lightheart: Probably well over 90%.

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Dr. Susan Brown: yeah 80% at least of all reactions are delayed and so people don't recognize that, so you have to do, special testing to figure out the delayed reactions.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And then you, you know you always want to avoid those substances you're reacting to and get the nutrients to begin to repair and that's where pH balance comes in.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Because the cell doesn't function well in an acid condition you'll you'll survive, but it's the thing from going from surviving to really thriving to have an optimal you produce adequate proteins, where you produce ATP where the enzymes are fully active you.

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Wade Lightheart: Know you've identified, I believe, six points in your programs if you can share with us where people can get your programs, that would be awesome explain the points that you feel a healthy bone or good alkaline lifestyle would help people.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well it's been my life's mission really to I get carried away with bone health, you can see, by the thousand articles, because it is really fascinating to me, and I see a lot of mistreatment, particularly a women, sometimes of men, too, but you'll see the fact that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: There is very little medical attention, giving to finding the cause or really identifying bone weakness we've simply gone with bone density test bone density test, now we know do not predict fracture there they're going to be replaced because they're not effective, really.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, but.

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Dr. Susan Brown: What it is effective, is scaring and a lot of women, and particularly thin women small bone women because these machines.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Do not measure they're very influenced by area, so a person was small bones, a person lightweights going to come with a low bone density.

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Dr. Susan Brown: So they're often told just take bone drugs when really the the they may or may not have a bone problem, on the other hand, you have people who.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Are average person woman who said who's got signs of bone weakness, she may have best receding gums you may even have some minor fracture.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Often these cases are not looked into, to find the causes of bone weakening so we champion one we champion number one a real assessment.

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Dr. Susan Brown: What is going on in your case and we teach people the medical tests, they should get looking for the causes, we have developed this into a a six step program called the the the.

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Dr. Susan Brown: bone support program that we now do in a webinar.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And we do that in over four days, where you you learn to set your own pace you learn to develop this alkaline diet you learn what key nutrients would be helpful, you learn the exercises.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Like they have truly shown in Australia at the Australian bone clinic that you can you can build new bone at any age, and they have these women.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Building a lot of bone in their 50s 60s 70s doing weightlifting, but you have to be very careful supervised, I mean it's like I did a webinar with recently with Belinda back who's a WHO to.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Do began the Australian bone clinic it is pretty I mean she blew the myth that you can't rebuild bone I mean it's pretty striking.

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Wade Lightheart: This is one of the most important areas for people to understand you know your body is extremely regenerative just about any age.

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Wade Lightheart: And that I think so many people will take a look, as we get older and like oh i'm getting older, I can't do this anymore, but there's a whole lot of things that people can do, and certainly it's much more than they might imagine.

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Wade Lightheart: what's What do you say to people who think that they're too old or they can't do it, or that you know it's just the body is going to break down what's your message to those.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, you know wait i'm sure you've seen this is the planet of free will.

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Dr. Susan Brown: that's moving the divine is given us free will, so I mean.

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Dr. Susan Brown: i'm a big champion for big activity i'm i'm a champion for trying to use every minute on this planet to my best advantage to learn as much as I can possibly learn and to share as much as I can share.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, if someone else's happy say hey you know i'm happy i'm Okay, I expect on dying a few years but i'm comfortable I don't mind if I can't walk around the block and you know I mean people.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I really do believe in choice and i'm not going to put anyone down and says look I just like my easy chair, and this is where I want to go but.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We I am I attract people who are interested in the regenerative capacity and and and I myself am very interested in that I.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I had very poor health when I was an anthropologist and I met great smart people who helped me understand nutrition acupuncture homeopathy and I just want to share with some of those things that i've learned.

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Wade Lightheart: So what does a day in your life look like from a health perspective, like So what do you do on an individual day that says hey this is how I maintain a healthy vibrant.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Well, for many, many years, one of the first things I learned from my friends, when I was in my early days of anthropology I learned about.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Our Vedic medicine and Chinese medicine, so I like I always do meditation meditation is really very important in a whole bunch of different modalities of meditation I love us sesame oil massage I love self massage is a really great way to start the morning I love to do.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I love to really pay attention to a really good breakfast you know I really like that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And I tend to take a really good breakfast to really good lunch try to get those two cups of vegetables for the breakfast in the lunch and.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Generally, I may not eat dinner, especially, you know as you get older, you know you you you realize you don't want to load up so much at night, many young people are now going going down to two meals, a day.

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Dr. Susan Brown: I really like doing that and have a good lunch, and then I like to do as much as you know, one thing that really is.

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Dr. Susan Brown: is so important to me as being outside you know it's just like I feel.

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Dr. Susan Brown: terrific outside now I could get envious of you there in Venice you've got sunlight all the time, but we have to like go cross country skiing, we have to go downhill skiing, we have to pay attention to.

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Dr. Susan Brown: But I feel terrific outside I did I work in the garden just because it feels great you know out there, my PIC X playing around, even in the middle of winter just because it's fun, for me, in that sense i'm really blessed because I love to be outdoors and physically active.

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Wade Lightheart: Now, can you talk about the Center for better bones in alkaline for life.

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Wade Lightheart: wow people can what's that about and where people can find that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The Center for better bones I established about 30 years it's a it's a this group, where we research bone health we write blogs better bones calm, there is like you said 1000 blogs there's hundreds of videos we've helped.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Thousands of people all over the world, understand bits and pieces about bone health many I see clients I you know I can only see so many but i've seen thousands of clients and.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Now we're and we write books we're writing a new book The bare bones solution and actually are offering right now, are these retreats it's my goal.

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Dr. Susan Brown: that any person any place in the universe, who says, I want to know everything you know about bone i'll teach them.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And we do in these four day retreats the next ones coming up in January, you might go to better bones COM.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We get great reviews we people we send people a whole book a whole workbook whole binder on this it's my immense pleasure.

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Dr. Susan Brown: To see people say wow I didn't know this, I can make a difference, I can ask my doctor I don't have to take this drug I can try to I can find out what the problem is.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And at least i'm going to do my darndest and if I can't solve the problem that I know there's a drug there so.

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Dr. Susan Brown: The Center for veterans now the big offering is are these educational retreats I can't see everyone, I still see some people but it's.

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Dr. Susan Brown: very expensive, so you might jump on that retreat learn everything you've got to learn, and then we help you afterwards alkaline for life is an arm that developed with some of the young people that I work with it got interested in these professional grade products and so and.

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Dr. Susan Brown: My interest in alkaline is an environmental issue, you see, just like we're acidifying the oceans and the water and the air were acidifying our bodies and it's not sustainable.

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Dr. Susan Brown: We are we are dramatically destroying the planet, just as we're destroying our own health and so my campaign is about.

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Dr. Susan Brown: is about acidity in the broader picture like ocean you people probably don't know, but the oceans absorb.

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Dr. Susan Brown: A third of all the carbon in the environment and in about 20% all the plants absorb and the rest stays up there floating down to come and acid rain, but.

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Dr. Susan Brown: it's a it we're doing a lot of damage to the environment and we're also acidifying our bodies were demoralizing the world and we're demanding realizing ourselves.

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Dr. Susan Brown: With our creative ways of living in this modern society gotta change and so part of my campaign is that this is for the future, to create a better planet.

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Wade Lightheart: to fit in.

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Wade Lightheart: Where do people reach you to find out more information.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Okay, better ones that come up, we have a blog that goes out all the time sign up better bones calm, you can look and see the retreats and you can sign up for the blog and alkaline for life.

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Dr. Susan Brown: alkaline for life is other website where we have many, many in depth articles and key nutrients like a score rate set to healing nutrient magnesium.

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Dr. Susan Brown: zinc and we have a free webinar on the alkaline diet, if anyone says, I want to know what this is really about go to alkaline for life.

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Dr. Susan Brown: See the free webinar if you want to know about bone go to better bones calm, we have some wonderful free webinars there, including how to understand your bone density tests, how to deal with osteopenia.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And they're beautifully produced so take advantage of it, this is a.

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Dr. Susan Brown: And i've heard you speak with other of your your guests, that if it's the time we all need to take responsibility, no one cares about your health as much as you do, and no one has the power to affect your health like you do so either stand up and do it, or you take the consequences.

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Wade Lightheart: Or you fall down and.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Get stepped.

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Wade Lightheart: Dr Susan Brown, you are a breath of fresh air Thank you so much for joining us today on the awesome health podcasts and for those of you who are.

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Wade Lightheart: suffering from bone degeneration or know someone or concerned about it, maybe you have a family, history or predisposition for it definitely check out her programs she's very well known as.

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Wade Lightheart: You know I outlined and laid out a step by step process that.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Exactly exactly.

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Wade Lightheart: And I think that's, the most important part is to be able to say hey you know what I don't I can do the heavy lifting later here's what I need to do and spend your time your effort and energy on doing what you need to do, as opposed to you know wondering what to do.

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Dr. Susan Brown: Exactly to take it well, I congratulate you, you you you you're doing your part, to try to help move things along and have people take charge, I mean we gotta wake up, or else I mean it's just time we take charge.

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Wade Lightheart: Absolutely, Dr Susan brown Thank you so much for joining us today.

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My pleasure.

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Wade Lightheart: My pleasure, thank you for joining us today can smash that like button share with your friends and, of course, if you know or have someone in your life that is suffering from bone degeneration.

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Wade Lightheart: Be sure to check out Dr brown's programs she's been generous to put them out here the information or all the show notes and thank you for joining us today on the awesome health podcast we'll see you on the next episode.

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