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053: Detoxing For Longevity with David Wolfe

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One of the keys to health is detoxing for longevity. David Wolfe, rock star of the raw food, superfoods and longevity multiverse, is here to tell us more. David is the author of numerous best-selling books including: The Beauty Diet, The Sunfood Diet Success System, Naked Chocolate, Amazing Grace, Superfoods: The Food and Medicine of the Future, Chaga: King of the Medicinal Mushrooms and Longevity NOW. He has also shared the stage with people like Anthony Robbins, Richard Branson, Brian Tracy and acclaimed doctors and health researchers including Dr. Bruce Lipton and Dr. Joseph Mercola.

Today on the Awesome Health Podcast, David tells us about what it’s like bringing a spiritual message into the world, and why things like intermittent fasting, growing your own food, and grounding in nature can be so beneficial. We dive in deeper into one of these areas: grounding. David is a big proponent of grounding; walking in nature, getting your feet on the ground, being outside are all ways to help alleviate things like depression and anxiety.

He even explains phenoma like the Santa Anas of southern California or the chinooks of Calgary and how they can change people’s behaviors. If you want to test this out for yourself you can take a dip in a cold body of water, and see how exposing your skin to the negative ions makes you feel.

We go on to discuss some detoxing basics, including the mental aspects of cleansing: it’s valuable to have a group of people around you who are also cleansing for accountability, support and processing the experience. David recommends using activated charcoal throughout the year for on-going detoxification, and the spring is an especially good time for a detox.

He also suggests two books that he considers key, two books that are Woody Harrelson’s favorites: Rational Fasting and Mucosal Site Healing System by Arnold Ehret. Tune in to hear more about David’s back story with Woody, plus his mantra for daily living at its finest. It is all here on this episode of Awesome Health Podcast with David Wolfe!

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Wade Lightheart: Good morning, good evening and good afternoon. It's Wade T Lightheart from BiOptimizers Awesome Health Podcast and I am super pumped. Yes folks, it's the best day ever. This is the best day ever because we have the legend himself! David Wolfe, probably the most iconic living master of health, longevity, super food. For those who don't know, he campaigned for over 30 years and has been involved in so many different things. Number one, he planted over a million trees through his foundation, I think it is. He's kind of like the modern day Johnny Appleseed. He's got an extraordinary history, launched the whole superfood raw movement or relaunched it, I should say. It was kind of an idea way back in the day, written a pile of books. But more importantly, I think everybody in the health industry has probably can

Wade Lightheart: take their mind back or take themselves to a moment in the last 10, 15, 20, 25 years where they were at a small, medium or large lecture with David Wolfe and some kind of electric transmission came through to them and changed the course of your life. So David, you've probably changed the course of more people's lives than anybody in the health food industry or the health awareness or longevity community today. And you've probably traveled more miles than anybody in the initial, I mean, you were perpetually on the road for three years and now you're kind of away for a little bit. We didn't know what was going on. You were kind of on your shamanic mission or whatever it is. We'll find out a little bit about that.

Wade Lightheart: What's going on with you today? Welcome to the show! So great to have you.

David Wolfe: Oh man, so glad it's you. And you know, I heard about this show and Angela set this up, you know, she'd been my business partner for like 25 years and then I got your products. I was like "Oh, these are awesome products." And then seeing them like - "Oh, now it all makes sense." So great to see you bro. I'm seeing you are as great as ever. And I've been, you know, I've been on the road for 26 years straight. And so this whole thing that's going on right now has actually gotten me off the road for the first time in 26 years. My claim to fame is I've been 26 years traveling where I have not been in one place for more than four weeks or a month.

David Wolfe: And so I'm home for seven weeks. It's the first time it's ever happened in my adult life. What's that? That's kind of shocking.

Wade Lightheart: What's that like?

David Wolfe: It's the best ever. I mean, you know, I don't know what's going to happen with our traveling industry. I'm not sure what's going to happen with how this is all going to pan out, you know? But I feel like I did it. I'm good. I don't need to go anywhere. I'm good. So either way I'm okay and I'm really happy to be home and I'm really able to dig into many, many projects that I had, you know, basically, set up here and then for the one day in the future when I'd be here more often. And now I'm doing them every day. I'm getting them done. It's so cool.

Wade Lightheart: Super cool. For those who might not be familiar with your history, can you give a little bit of background. I love the history of you growing up in New Jersey and the doctors. Tell me a little bit about that and what was the aha moment, if you will, where you decided that you were going to dedicate your life to this message and this mission, which nobody's really committed to that level of depth that you have?

David Wolfe: Well, you know, I've been around for a long time, so you know, it started in 1970 when I was born, both my parents are doctors, my dad has an office. I recently went and did and photographed all the images of my dad's old office. Me and my brothers and my dad in front of his office when we're like four or five years old. My brother had the group, he was one or two or something like that. And just to have that, you know, cause I'm going to start putting that into my social media a little bit more. So I was born into a doctor's family, both my mom and dad. And so there's a phrase that I think is appropriate here. There's an old Roman phrase and it says "Those who deny their destiny will be dragged by the fates and those who align with their destiny will be carried on the wings of fate."

David Wolfe: And that was like me cause all my life I didn't want nothing to do with healing medicine, anything like that. You know, when I was a little kid, I was still very much into health food. When we had our little gang, you know, as kids, and we were like 14, 15, 16, no one was allowed to have candy. You know, we'd rip the candy right out of our friend's mouth. I mean we had that little thing there. But it started for me, I think, with the trees and the tree planting and growing stuff. When I was 5, I used to plant pine trees in my neighborhood and that eventually I became a fanatical planter. And then eventually that rolled into my fruit tree planting foundation, which since 2002 we've planted a million trees in the world.

Wade Lightheart: That's amazing. I had a stint planting, I put 38,000 trees into the ground one year at a college and I feel really good cause I feel it's just helped my environmental impact. But tell us more about how you translate it, you know, breaking out from when you're with medical parents and you're kind of down, maybe a more rigid path and you're obviously super intelligent. It's kind of like "well, this is the way you should go." But somehow you were able to kind of like break out.

David Wolfe: Yeah. Circumvent it somehow. You know, that's the thing about destiny. So what happened is that I, you know, when I was at university, UC Santa Barbara, I went from getting Cs to straight A's by one thing. I used to go to the library and get those success tapes. And it was one bit of advice in there that took me to straight A's. It's like that. And I was always a straight student, you know, leading up to university. When I got into university, it was parties and I didn't really care as much, whatever, you know, that goes. Anyway. So this piece of advice was connect what you're doing. Let's say you're studying, I don't know, Plato - connect Plato to a thing that you love, connect in. So when you write the papers, think of something new.

David Wolfe: So at that time I loved surfing. So all your analogies and the whole paper becomes about surfing and Plato. And that could have been straight A's instantly. Teacher's assistants would contact me. They'd be like "how this is so fun to read. What's going on here?" And that's it. That's what was the whole secret. So one day after I got out of university, I took a year off. It was really, it was a lot. It was a lot of work, very intense. And I ended up going home. I stayed with my mom and lived there for a year and then, towards the end of that year, one night I had a vision. It just struck me in what I was to do with my life.

David Wolfe: And you know, like Jack Kerouac wrote in his book "On the road", he said - "those who don't listen to a vision are damn fools." And I had a vision one night and inexplicably vision said, you're going to do this. And it just lined up. I was like - I love public speaking, I love health, I love this. The whole focus of what's going on here. I love everything. It just all came together so that I could put everything that I'm into and all that I love in one place. It's painful. And from that moment I never looked back, even though I did go through four years of law school during that time. And I did graduate from law school, even though I was traveling, doing health shows and everything, I'd come back and I'd be like, go play. I hope I make it man. I hope I pass this test. But again, that trick of connecting what you love to whatever it is, contract law, whatever it was. And then in 1998, I graduated law school and I just never looked back and I never really wanted to have anything to do with log in and went 100% into a superfood. Nutrition, raw foods, fasting, all that stuff.

Wade Lightheart: Well one of the things I find interesting from that perspective is of course, you know, you've talked a lot about the laws of nature in your talks as well and understanding the structure that there are rules and regulations to the universal things that are kind of we have to discover and uncover. And one of the things we share - a friendship with a, God bless his soul, David Carmos and yeah, beautiful man who had a big influence on me with his work with Essesns. And I know that you're deeply integrated with that kind of spiritual health philosophy that was discovered. I think that's a part a lot of people don't know about - about these uncovered truths. Any insights that you've garnered from that or that you've influenced kind of your perspective? A very top down perspective before you get into what particularly you're talking about on a topic.

David Wolfe: Yeah. Well I think definitely I'm always bringing a spiritual message. You know, my message is spiritual first for sure. My message is God first, or source first, or nature first, whatever your interpretation of that word is or higher power or higher self. And so you know, through my work with Essenes, there has been things. It's so amazing, man. I'm so lucky. And so are you that we got that education young because now that I'm looking back and going, Oh thank God they taught me how to fast, thank God they taught me how to eat. Thank God those great teachers Paul Braggs, David Carmos, Sean Miller. You remember Sean Miller at med board, and his body of work and those wonderful scene gospels of peace and you know, the importance of Essenes, doctor Gabriel cousins, what he taught me. And now it all comes back to me with more fruit. It's really amazing. So you know, ultimately I grew up very in very much in sciences, but later as I got deeper into it, I realized, Oh, this isn't legit. This is what we call scientism, which is there at the depth of science. They're really trying to avoid the scientific method.

Wade Lightheart: Which is ironic. It's very ironic if you talk to some of the most influential kind of what I would say, thinkers in that realm, and almost all of them says the same thing. And that is that real science has stopped progressing. Whether you're listening to Eric Weinstein, whether you're listening to another former friend of ours, Patrick Flanagan, or you're talking with various experts who are really getting breakthroughs, but they're being supported, pressed by the people who have some investment in their position, which is now being disproven or whatever.

David Wolfe: Well said. Yeah. We call that scientism, which is not really the scientific establishment, it's the scientific monopoly. And they're like, we can't have anything coming in here that could violate what we've said. And so all of that has helped fit me back into the science teachings. And I love the Essenes teachings because one is you don't proselytize, you recognize yourself in a scene and that's it. Right? So there's no agenda with that. And then you come from a place of teaching, you know, the great Essenes teachings, whether it's fascinating, whether it's solitude, whether it's prayer, whether it's meditation, whether it's raw foods, whether it's sprouting, you know, fill in the blank, right relationship, right livelihood, walks in nature, whatever it is, and you just come from that. And then people who are open to it. But you know, it is interesting getting into the bigger population. And with NutriBullet and Facebook, what kind of resistance we're up against, it's intense.

Wade Lightheart: Which kind of brings us kind of where we are today. Right now of course we're under this, I don't know what you want to call it.

David Wolfe: Medical science, I'll call it medical scientism. That's what it is. It's medical scientism.
Wade Lightheart: To me, I feel like we're in the greatest hoax ever, exerted upon humanity. But what would you say with your talks around the world, cause you've been kind of seeing actually generations coming into the conversation over the course of your career, what do you think is the perspective that's missing today or the component today that is so critical that people are out there searching for something, they want something, particularly related to health. What are you seeing and what do you think is where people need to kind of get let out of the wilderness of this scientism or, you know, public perception.

David Wolfe: But one of the great things that's happening is that this next generation, the millennials or whatever you want to call them, they're super hip on the message that I have. They really are. And I'm very hopeful about that group. And I just see that on Instagram, amount of trolling that I would get with the older community was much greater. The younger group, they're not really involved in that old style of thinking, I guess it's probably the best way to say it. So that's very promising. So there's great hope there. And then what they're wondering is like wait, what do I do? I want to get to the magical reality. How do I get there? And so what we're doing is we're providing bridges to nature. And one of the great bridges is raw foods. One of the great bridges is sprouting. One of the great bridges is growing your own food and experimenting with gardening and to that message, people are sucking it up. They love it. The fasting messages never been stronger. Can you believe it? We broke through with this, the whole, what do they call it, you know, we do the old school fasting, the water fasting, that kind of thing, but they call it, what's the thing…

Wade Lightheart: Intermittent fasting? I'm doing alternate day right now. So I do 12 hours of eating, then 36 hours of fasting, 12 hours eating, which has really been fun someone up in their years as I am. It's a great one for guys.
David Wolfe: That's really good. I'm glad to hear that. And so that's broken through for us. So it just seems like everything is just kind of set up with the next generation. They're all ready to go and they're there. They're marching in line ready to go and very excited about what's happening. And I'm just very, very excited about that group and inspired with the older generation. You know, what's that old phrase that says, I think it was Blaise Pascal, the great mathematician. He said the old ideas are not overturned. It's the people with them die off.

Wade Lightheart: That's for sure.
David Wolfe: A little bit of that's happening. And we're kind of rushing in there, just stay on the cutting edge with that young group and give them what they want. And man, are we having fun? It is so fun. Even in spite of all the insanity that's going on. I get up every morning, I was up at four this morning just, you know, like you were very similar like that. It just inspired and ready to rock and roll and punching out names and content and just videos and it was so fun.

Wade Lightheart: Well, that's one big advantage today, it's kind of a 22 with technology is that there's such an accessibility to information or an accessibility to excellence. But there's also the same thing with, you know, accessibility to redundance and stupidity. And that's certainly, you know what I mean? How do you think, or why do you think younger people are finding you today? Or how do you or how do you suggest people navigate between dogmatic thinking with real innovative life enhancing practices?

Wade Lightheart: Given the version of digital information.

David Wolfe: I think one of the best ways to do that is to curate your feed. It's a really good word. Curate your feed. So for example, your Instagram feed don't have anything coming on. Notice that's devaluing you. That's not like there shouldn't be anything in your feed that isn't totally inspiring you. Totally helping you, supporting you, giving you tips, giving you ideas, giving you health ideas, business ideas, friendship ideas, relationship ideas that are positive, empowering. We've never had a better opportunity to have that. And so what I do on my thing is when you have people who you have to follow up cause they're friends or family - I found that on Instagram you could actually mute them so their stuff doesn't show up, but then you're still following them so they're okay. You know what I mean? They're not freaking out.

Wade Lightheart: You've met your digital social responsibilities cause you're still following them, but it's just not permeating into the gray matter so that you pick up some bad habits or bad thinking or whatever.

David Wolfe: Yeah. Or just, you know, some ideas that are just old school - don't need to go over those anymore anyway. So curating your feed is a very good strategy. Another very important strategy. We've been teaching this for the better part of over 15 years in our superhero training, which is you've got to get at least one measured hour in nature. That is so important every day. And when I say measured, because I know what happens with people, they say "Oh, I'll go out and walk the dog." You know, it's a 40 minute walk, needs to be an hour - an hour.

Wade Lightheart: And one of the things I think you're also very famous for kind of bringing to is the components of actually getting your feet on the ground in nature and grounding in this component. Can you talk about, it's awesome. I love it. I love the unfiltered. Can you talk about relating to nature because people are locked down in there. You see the mental health challenges really scaling up and there's a lot of people suffering from anxiety and we both know how anxiety reducing is, but just going for a walk in nature, being by the ocean or being in the forest or being on the beach or the desert or whatever happens to find yourself. What is that relationship between the connection of nature or putting your skin to the ground? What have you found or discovered with that? That's so key because I think here's two aspects. I'll let you comment first.

David Wolfe: Okay. So this has been a huge area of research for me in the last 10 years, but it really started probably at some point in my book reading, I came across "The ion effect", which is a wonderful book. And it talked about Southern California, they have the Santa Ana that come in the late summer, that takes hot air from the desert, pushes it out towards the beach. Normally it's that the weather comes from the West of the East and you know, moves towards the desert from the ocean. But then it comes the other way and it changes the ions, the positively charged ions in the atmosphere from about three out of every nine to five, out of every nine and radically changes behavior as research showed. Now these ions either negative or positive is one way to understand them are all around us.

David Wolfe: So the earth itself is negatively charged with ions come from the earth, especially in places like beaches, waterfalls, campfires, small campfires. Those are emitters of negative ions and concentrates of them and cold water and cold oceans in particular. And then the atmosphere itself is positively charged. And if the atmosphere becomes too overtly, positively charged, that's when we start having a little bit of changes in behavior. People get a little flustered and that's that Santa Ana condition. We can go all over the world. There's Chinooks of Calgary, another one. There's another one, I'm thinking in Western Australia, in Perth, where the wind changes direction and starts pushing out from the desert towards towards Perth and the ocean. All these different ecosystems have it. Anyway, this is something that I've had to learn from my two years of surfing in Southern California, that we would just naturally at our natural inclination, that was when we had Santa Ana - get to the beach and get surfing because then you're saturated in the negative ions versus the positive, which disturbs us.

David Wolfe: Now all this electrical equipment that we have around us, including electrical wires kicks off too much positive charge or static electricity basically. And so I'm always aware of this, very intimately aware of this. So even night here under my feet, I've got a grounding pad and you remember this stuff. So this is connected to the ground wire of my building here. And so that negative charge pushes up from the earth into me through this right here. And kills the static electricity. It gives me more negative charge. Now that has a very profound effect on our ideas, on our consistency of work. So if you're not grounded, if you're just in an office and not electrically grounded, the only time good ideas come is usually when you're in the shower cause then you're electrically grounded. When they turn that shower on, especially cold shower, all of a sudden I've got the answer, I got it.

David Wolfe: You know, that kind of stuff. So what I've been able to do is really manage that understanding to the point where for example, every single day here, I barefoot walk to the lake over here and go swimming naked in a lake, ice cold. I mean it snowed this morning, it'll be ice cold this morning and just every day we've been doing that for the last month ever since it melted. And just disciplining yourself because the cold water pushes off that positive electricity. So you just get saturated. The negative ions, it's all over all your skin. That's why you gotta wear a bathing suit. But I go cause it's just a little bit better. And it clears off all the stuff, the electromagnetic storms that we call emotional instability. Too much workload confusion. That stuff is in part electromagnetic. There's no question about it. And when you get your head underneath that cold water, then you go "Oh, it's all gone." Just like that. And so that's a practice and a discipline that I learned over the years from the research on negative ions versus positive ions. And you want those negative free ions that are coming from waterfalls, coming from cold water, coming from the earth itself, especially when you only really get that skin to skin contact.

Wade Lightheart: Love it. It's so powerful and we're starting to see trends of people have since we're in this positively charged ionic bath continuously all the time that there seems to be driving more awareness, you know, to get connecting with nature to doing these cold water plunges to getting your feet on the ground, grounding and then the technology that goes with it. So I want to switch gears a little bit. So what do you think, because you kind of came to age, I think, talking about health and longevity. What do you feel are the key elements that people like the absolute laws, if you will, the must do if you want to live, as I say, long and you want to live strong while you live long. What do you think or what have you have found? Cause I know you've researched everything. I mean you could go on with that with a rainbow of things, but what are the things that people need to say?

David Wolfe: Number one is spiritual connection to source, connection to God, connection to creator. And that's number one because in our lifetime, you know, I've got my cousin right now who didn't do the things that we love and you know, eat junk food and smoke cigarettes and all kinds of things, did all kinds of drugs, all kinds of stuff. He's in a hospital right now in San Diego. He had a stroke and it's really troubling cause I can't see him. I can't even get down there cause I can't get into the hospital due to what's going on due to what's going on. It's gnarly. And so, you know, when I think about his case, one of the main challenges in his life has been that he hasn't had that connection to source that connection to God. He didn't get that peace.

David Wolfe: And so I know what it's done to him, you know, how has led him to drugs or alcohol or escapism or whatever. And so that's number one. And also, knowing from my experience, seeing parallel lives like kids and other people I know who turned to drugs and alcohol, just knowing that inside, deep down there is peace inside. Deep down there is happiness no matter what else is going on around us. That is such a key teaching that I picked up from it and I really, I have to say, do you want to mention this? Going to see the great yogis actually being in their presence has had a profound impact on me.

Wade Lightheart: I can share that same thing, that's been the one piece that kind of just opens up perspective. You can go through almost anything if you have that. And if you don't have it, no matter how good your life is, there's always something missing.

David Wolfe: Absolutely. And so that your happiness has to come from within and your peace and connection to source has to come from within. And I do think that seeking out people who are spiritual masters, these great gurus, I remember seeing, the guy didn't sleep for months and he would just meditate nonstop. And so they bring them up in front of the audience and he meditate. And you'd be like, who's ready to drop drugs and alcohol right now? And people would raise their hands, God, I'm done. You know, that's it. I'm done with it. And just his presence and his energy even today still affects me. And I was like "Oh, this dude is so connected to source. He never is apart from it." So that's number one. Number two is fasting and praying. So those two together, you know, the Bible mentions those two together numerous times. I think in the Bible it's mentioned, I used to know the exact number, like 77 times together. Fasting and prayer. It's that's a big one. So the best thing to do is nothing.

Wade Lightheart: Which is just so shocking, right? Go within and stop putting stuff in and see what emerges.

David Wolfe: That's it. So doing nothing has been a wonderful teaching and that's why I like fasting so much. It's just such a great thing. Just nothing is better for pain. Like don't do anything. Just be with it. So then I'd say beyond that, you know, we gotta get into a conversation about relationships in nutrition. So relationships are very key because the stronger your relationships are, the longer you're going to live. For example, we know from placebo research that let's say somebody gets a breast cancer diagnosis and they come home and they're supported by their family or they have a pet that loves them, their chances of survival are two or three times higher. I mean, that's really substantial. That's like amazing. You really think about that. Like, wow, that's a profound effect. And then in addition and on top of that, we start putting nutrition in so that we're not toxifying ourselves, that we're actually getting goodies in, like this is water and sea buckthorn extract from our buck horns in the front yard here. And, you know, just so wonderful to be able to get your own local nutrition and your local water. You know, I'm springwater hunter. I really recommend that for people. It's one of those things that connects you to your local ecosystem. Wonderful practice to have, hunted over 350 springs on five continents.

Wade Lightheart: And I've had this springwater from your place up in Ontario. Some guys brought it to me, which is extraordinary. And I think that was one of the decisions why you got that place?

David Wolfe: You know, people come after me and they're just doing cold water dips cause of Wim Hoff. I'm like dude, I love Wim Hoff and we're friends. But that's not why I'm doing it. It's because I've been doing it. That's why I moved to Ontario 15 years ago. I've been doing it all long as you know. And I just absolutely love the feeling of it. I'm so glad that Wim Hoff popularized. What an amazing thing. And by the way, that's another piece of the puzzle too - its swimming, getting into the water. So yeah, you want to drink the water for sure, but also connecting to the local waters around you, doesn't mean just drinking it. It also means going for swims in that ocean, getting in that cold ocean, all seasons, even in the middle of winter. And just feel what that exhilaration is like. And that exhilaration is part of life. And that's what challenges your system. This is what Wim Hoff showed. It challenges your system. It hormesis and it stretches you.
Wade Lightheart: Yeah. So that's really fun. Beautifully said. I know from research they've suggested that water has 440,000 information panels of storage. So the reason you can remember your keys or your name or where your address is has a lot with the principles of water. And of course we have another mutual friend, Patrick Flanagan who edited the chapter I did on water and one of my books. And it was very interesting to always sit with these folks who had studied these things for years. But when you talk about getting into water or the information of the sea food is information, fruits, vegetables, that combination of amino acids, that combination of minerals and that substrate of water programs and in a certain way, it's giving information to your body. And I remember one of your talks years ago when I was early in my career, I remember you talking about information sources from food and the components that are inside that it's lovely. What's really great is, you know, you're walking the walk, you've been practicing these principles for years and now second and third generations are gravitating the message even more so today. What are some other elements beyond that, that you think that's really critical and what are you up to today particular you're focusing on?

David Wolfe: I would kind of cue up on that. You know, I'm a big fan of Rudolph Steiner and over the years of all the books I've read and I have made it a lifestyle to read thousands of books. I finally landed on Rudolph Steiner and I was like, this dude is just the depth. I mean he left behind a million pages of material, a million pages.

Wade Lightheart: And for those who want to dive a little bit more into, they should refer to our friend Paul Chek. And about 40-45 minutes into your conversation we got into Rudolph Steiner and I was like - Paul went on such a roundabout, let's hear a day, it's almost waiting for David to talk about that stuff. Cause you know, not a lot of people know these masters who have shared so much wisdom that will be applicable a thousand years from now as it is today. So what are some other key elements that you think has impact?

David Wolfe: Steiner really taught me a really interesting principle and that is when you're creating, you're in the cosmic center of all your all undue influences are relieved when you're in the moment of creation. So being involved in creating, for example, you know, I love creating in the yard, I love creating little spots to grow things and gardens and planting and creating soils, so that when I'm in that moment, there's nothing, I don't need to do anything else. I'm in the best ever. And so that's a big one - being in creation. So whatever your thing is, let's say somebody, an artist, is there where they create at work. Stay in the creative center and you will never be lost in this world. So I think that's a big principle of longevity as well.

David Wolfe: Right there. And then while we're on that, just because I did mention gardening, a big thing is not only eating the wonderful raw foods and the foods from nature and wild food, but also growing it yourself, which so many people today are so interested in doing that. I mean, they really are so interested. I'm absolutely impressed with, you know, that they do Instagram live or something. And just one thing after another, "Oh here's an aronia berry, here's a sea buckthorn. Here's what this looks like. Here's what that looks like." People just can't get enough of it. It's just awesome. So I'm really excited about that group. Finally getting on the land. You know, these kids are like 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. So gardening and having your feet and hands in the soil is another big principle.

David Wolfe: And then, you know, of course there's always the yoga and you could see right back there, you can see my yoga swing. See that right there? And so there's always the yoga. I got to start getting back in that thing. I basically broke both my legs in the last three years. So yeah, just crazy stuff, going too much, just trying to squeeze three lives into one. Right? Why not? But I tell you why not - now you could hurt yourself. And I did hurt myself pretty badly. And this last one has been like six months. You know, I'm up and walking again. No problem. But I can't run yet. You know, I'm still at that stage. So now I'm at the point where I can climb into that swing and that's going to be my next little little yoga practice.

David Wolfe: So that's a big one. And one of the reasons why I bring the yoga, and especially that thing is the inversions getting inverted, getting upside down to your head and your heart is below your hips. That's so key. That's one of the best teachings of all longevity. What you're doing is you're inverting the forces, you're taking gravity. I got so much flack for this, but this is so useful to people. You take gravity, which is ultimately taught a toxin, right? It's crunchy, goes down, triggers essentially. And you're flipping it around and you're using it to elongate and stretch your spine out. It's creating traction. And that's really one of the best hacks there is. And yoga has been on that from the beginning, all about it in versions. They've only been doing that for 10,000 years or something. You know, something I don't know. That's so great.

Wade Lightheart: It's catching fire. But there's also a lot of disinformation out there. And that's detox. And I see a lot of people talking about detox, detox diets, this thing or whatever.

Wade Lightheart: Just a smorgasborg of ideas and stuff. And oftentimes what happens is people get confused because there's too many different things or conflicting information or whatever. I'd like for you to maybe spend a little time for our listeners because you're such an expert in this area, kind of flesh out what is the main principles of detox, who and when should they do it, maybe the different types of detox, the right detox at the right time, how to go into it, how to come out of it, how not to screw yourself up, and how to take advantages. I'd like to really open the door up for you to share your wisdom concisely as possible. As only you can share with us of what you've learned about detox and what people need to know about detox so they can navigate this. A really critical element of health and longevity.

David Wolfe: Thank you for that. Number one thing about detoxes. Go at your pace. Go at a pace that's uncomfortable for you, but not so uncomfortable that you get into territory. You don't know what to do. Most of us are coming from a very toxic situation where we're breathing toxic air, water and food, and it's just around us all the time and we're saturated in it. And we're seeing now that you know more and more, there's more and more interest, but we're more and more toxic. So we have to go slow. So the first thing you want to do is, you want to go take the basic steps, go organic, do a heavy metal detox, which means a lot of sweating, right? Get in that sauna over there and do some sweating and clay. So you just go in gentle.

David Wolfe: Let me tell you what I've learned over the years - don't get it too complicated, but keep it simple. The number one binder and clay later, that's been with the history of humanity longer than anything else. It's really two of them. And I like them in 80/20 ratio, activated charcoal and clay. And that combination of those two is pretty much unbeatable as detoxifiers and binders, especially with consistent use. So, you know, I do my charcoal, I have a container. This is all filled with charcoal capsules and every day I do some of these guys. But if you're just new to all this, when you get up in the morning, drink your water and take one of these 440 milligram capsules of activated charcoal and just start the process. Now this is shocking when you're going to dig this. I don't know if you know this, this came to me through a roundabout series of investigations that finally landed me on this discovery. The number one substance that people can take, the number one substance and animal research has ever been found to increase longevity in terms of something you could actually ingest is activated charcoal by far.

Wade Lightheart: Can you share with people what activated charcoal is actually doing in your body? What's it responsible for?

David Wolfe: And by the way, it's a great first step if you're really, really new, this is such a great first step. Activated charcoal is an agent, but it doesn't absorbed like a sponge. Which is more like an electromagnetic phenomenon. It's more like magnet sticking to your fridge. So when you take the charcoal and imagine just taking a giant magnet, you just slot a big magnet and all those positively charged molecules in there. The mercury, the the formaldehyde, the plastics, they get pulled to the charcoal through your intestines. Mostly that's where most of the action is through a process that's called interstitial dialysis. We've heard that for certain before dialysis. That's like "Oh wait, that's like kidney filtering, isn't it?" And so then, then you go, wait a second, what's the interstitial dialysis? It's a natural filtering process that activated charcoal activates in your body where it draws the toxins off your blood through the intestinal track the other way, right? Because normally your body's absorbing to the portal vein and into the liver.

Wade Lightheart: Just like the reversing the ions. With the Santa Ana winds, you can actually do this in your internal as it is, you know.

David Wolfe: And it's so wonderful. And so people ask me, okay, what do you mean charcoal? Can I just like burn wood and then eat it? And the answer is yeah, if it's an edible wood like birch or maple, sure you could just charcoal in a fire and eat it. But I'd recommend the activated charcoal. This is cleaner and it's a little bit more, you know, it's a little bit more efficient in the sense that it's been micronized and broken down so it has more surface area. A typical capsule of activated charcoal can absorb between 100 and 200 times its own weight and toxins. That's really high. So you don't need more than one capsule a day to start for sure. Just if you're going a health kick, just start with that in the morning with your water. Make sure you drink your water every morning. I put a little bit of sea salt in my water too for the electrolytes. I think you're a big fan of that as well. And those three together with lemon, wonderful lemon water, a little bit of sea salt, a little bit activated charcoal. Excellent way to start your day.

Wade Lightheart: Let's talk about where the clay comes in - bentonite clay, that type of thing. Can you explain what clay's all about, what it does in your body and how it works within a detox program?

David Wolfe: Okay, so there are many different clays out there I like - red clays, and the white clays. Some white clays are calcium based, some white clays are gray, clays are more Illumina based, but it's like aluminum as it appears naturally in the environment. It's not like an aluminum can. And then the red clays are rich in iron. So it depends on your metabolism. I run a little bit hot, I'm a little pitta, you know, so if I do red clays, it can kind of get me fiery. But if I do white clays, it kind of calms me down. And you literally would just take a capsule of clay or a little bit of clay powder and you can blend it into a drink really easy. That's a really good way to do it. When you're doing a detox, in the morning you're going to do the activated charcoal, but let's say you're going into your day and you're doing this fast, liquids.

David Wolfe: You want to get some bulking agent binder in there too and that's where the clay can come in so you can just up the capsule clay or get a little jar of clay. It's all powdered and just add that with powder and whatever you're drinking. Even just water if you want to and then drink that in and you get the same kind of gentle drawing power is activated charcoal. They work really well together. The typical history of pharmaceuticals in Europe would mix about 80% activated charcoal and about 20% clay. That product was available by Merck pharmaceuticals for a hundred years until last year they took it off. Wow. They actually had a clay and activated charcoal product on the market for a hundred years. And as this whole thing has gotten popular with clay and activated charcoal, they took it off. It's so weird. I mean, I look at that and go "is that a coincidence?" What the heck is going on here?

Wade Lightheart: Well, do you think they were using that to reduce some of the toxicity from the pharmaceutical agents that are out there? Or was it for some other purpose, a history of demand?

David Wolfe: I think it was history. You know, we've gotten further as time has gone on, we've gotten further, especially with pharmaceutical companies, they just have gotten further and further away from nature. And now we're to the point where it's just medical tyranny. But back in the day, they actually had some really interesting and neat products. For example, standardized willow extract, which today we call aspirin. And there was some, you know, hydrochloric or chloroquine, which is quinine that's been a standardized product and medicine for 70 years. There's a hundred of them let her like that, that are like actually made out of natural products and standardizing, you know, some of them could be very, very valuable in acute situations and very useful. But the pharmaceutical industry is step-by-step tried to get rid of those and the latest victim of that is activated charcoal clay, that combo product in their world.

David Wolfe: Obviously we can get that in our world. So anyway, this detoxing with activated charcoal and clay in particular is just these binders and drawing agents. So what they're doing as step-by-step, slowly but surely drawing off the toxic load off the body. They're intelligent medicines. That's another big one. I think you agree with me on this, that everything has intelligence. This whole idea that like "Oh, that's dead, this is living this, that's dead, that's living." And just that whole concept, that whole, it's scientism. There's no proof of any of that at all. It's like the way I look at the world. Everything's alive. Rocks are alive. You know, I had this, let me tell you a crazy thing that happened the other day. We've been really into cedar and growing cedar. I've got some really interesting cedars coming here that I ordered recently and it's been the dominant tree in my mind for this year in 2020 and I'm a big tree guy and I was out in the yard the other day and I was just working, making some soil and my neighbors drove up, we hit this verb.

David Wolfe: We don't know what to do. We're giving it to you. And it was a grouse. It was a wild chicken from the forest. Well, you know, it's just like a chicken but wild right up here. And it was still warm. They just put up my hand. I was like "Oh my God, it's dead. It's neck was broken. They hit it in the car." And I was like, Oh my God, we're going to do with this. And finally, you know, after a long period of "what am I going to do with this"? You know, it's a beautiful bird is now dead in my hands. I've got to respect it and you know, we've got to do this right. And I don't want to just bury it. I mean not everybody in this house is a vegetarian like me. And so I was like this is definitely better meat than anything you could ever buy.

David Wolfe: It's been delivered into my hands. Let me see if I can figure out how to do this thing. Like a chicken. I don't know. I'm a vegetarian, I don't know how to clean a chicken, any of it. But anyway, we did figure it out. But the first thing that happened is I cut into its gullet here and this is the craziest thing. Wade, Wade, listen to this, when I got him, cause they hold their food in a gullet here, right. So they take something in and they'll leave it here and they'll bring it back to their nest and eat it later. There was 11 or 12 sprouted cedar seeds in. It tripped me out after like an hour. I was like, Oh my God, that was whoa. That's the magic of living in nature. That's it right there. Stuff like that happens, so shocking. It's such a hyper synchronous years. All those seeds were delivered to me. Sprouted with the tails coming out. Even it was that crazy. That was like whoa, cedar. It was a tough one to take. I was crazy. So I planted them.

Wade Lightheart: That's beautiful. One of the interesting things I find is as you kind of commit to these practices of detoxification and you know, integrating with nature and spirit and these types of things, all of a sudden the amazing, magical, synchronistic component of the universe just kind of reveals itself on a perpetual basis. And I always find when I'm not in that space that somehow I've lost my connection, I've lost my awareness. It's time to pull back and you need to pull back and go, okay, I'm off track here a little bit. That's kind of my baseline - how much magic of my feeling on a day. And if I'm not feeling the magic, I know I'm out of balance.

David Wolfe: That's well said man. I mean the way I do that, the way I typically measure that is if I'm catching the 1111 is the 111 the 333, the 22, the 1234, the 1234, the 321. If I'm catching those times, I know I'm in the flow, but if I'm out a little sudden I look and it's like 1112 I'll go, Oh man, worst ever. I know that something's off. Right? And then I'm like, I gotta get that synchronicity clock back together. But I will say this, being at home now for seven weeks and seven plus weeks and not being on the road, that it's been up a little bit more. The synchronicity has been, you know, been good. It has been really good. So a lot to be said for being connected to the land. A lot to be said for being at home and even though we're kind of in this weird stay at home thing, there's some great things you can do when you're at home, but you don't get the chance to often and man take advantage of it right now.

Wade Lightheart: What are some other things on the detoxification conversation? You kind of laid out a couple of the must have the generalizations, you know, taking your diet into a more natural, the healthier foods, the grown foods, raw foods, that sort of stuff, adding in some charcoal and bentonite. Are those things that people can do all the time or should they be, you know, spacing them out?

David Wolfe: Try to get some clay and definitely charcoal. Charcoal is an easy one to get into our diet. We should definitely go to water, charcoal, sea salt and lemon in the morning, first thing in the morning. Get just that in our body and then what happens is when we come to those changes in the seasons, the equinoxes, the solstices or in particular like full moon, like what's happening right now, then that's a really epic time to go for the cleanse and do something interesting.

David Wolfe: And so typically the really strong one is the spring one. Spring one I try to get a 20, I think this last one was 26 days, that I really did some intense cleansing, but last year I was with Woody Harrelson. We went 55 days on our cleanse on that particular one and ended up in long water fast. I did a 12 day water fast with him. That was phenomenal. He's an awesome guy by the way. We've been close friends for 20 years and we've done lots of cleansing together cause that's whenever we get together it's like dude, it's time to start cleansing because he's not at work. I'm not at work, so let's cleanse and it's great. So with that last one, the 55 day cleanse I did last year, was the best cleanse I'd done in a very, very long time and what we do there is we gradually bring the calories down.

David Wolfe: We'd bring the raw foods, you know, for anybody who's new to that, we're going to bring you onto the raw foods and vegan foods and then step by step we're going to work you to a waterfall to a liquid diet and then we're going to work you to the right at about two weeks. Day 15 is right once you've been doing really that 15 days with us, the parasite cleansing also, and we usually start with the parasite cleanse about a week before. So we do that for week and then they keep doing it. Then they get into that week 2, they're going to bring those calories down. They go on more liquids. Week 3 it's full liquids and parasite cleansing. Then that 15th day of the official cleanse, it's really day 22 overall with the parasitic cleansing. That's when we go to the water fast. And then we do that for a week or longer. This guy lost 31 pounds, he was on our cleanse and he'd never done anything like that before. And he was able to do eight day water fast.

Wade Lightheart: Wow. That's incredible.

David Wolfe: Incredible. The water fasting stories that I've been getting from people because people go "I can't do it." And it's like - yes, you can just do it. Just follow me every day. We're going to do it together. It's so much easier together. And all of a sudden we're like, boom, we're on day one of the water fast. Just hang in there. We're communicating every day on a chat, all the whole group.

Wade Lightheart: I think that's really a key aspect cause you kind of illustrated something - a community equals accountability. It kind of leverages our innate tribal psychology is that, well I don't feel I can do that, but you know, I'm not going to let David down now. You know what I mean? I'm not going to be an outcast of the cleansing curve here. And then that can push you through those, what I would call those moments of weakness or those moments of doubt that emerges. Whenever you go and when you go to that and once you've gone through a few fasts, you kind of like 'Oh yeah, here it is.' Day three, my body wants to run to Burger King or something. Should I? Can you share with our listeners some of the insights or some of the advantages that start to emerge, or some of the challenges? I noticed when I started to fast, I started with one day fast and then two days and then three days and then, you know, eventually worked myself up to a 10 day water fast, I do that twice a year, but I built myself up to that. What are some of the things that you've discovered in fasting or some of the challenges that come up for people when they're engaging in this type of activity that's so important?

David Wolfe: Well, number one is - it's mental. It is so mental. It's all about your mental state. So the thing we're doing every day and what I'm doing, you know, with my texting, with our group and stuff, is I'm always getting to mentally in the right place - here, read this book, check out this video. Hey, let's focus on this. Do you know, this is the thing. It's like what we focus on expands. And so as soon as somebody goes, Oh my God, I hit that, I really want that. Oh my God, I'm really hungry. Oh, you know, as soon as they get caught up in that, we immediately go 'Hey, well I'm gonna look over here, look over here.' And that's the wonderful thing about being on a chat group - that we can redirect the focus into other places. Then you know as you go through day one, day two, day three, you know as once you get into that ketosis and that burning of the glycogen, all of a sudden day four you're like Whoa, this is easy.

David Wolfe: What's going on? And so we're just trying to get them into ketosis. That's really what it's about. So that then all of a sudden the cravings are gone and all of a sudden they go, Oh I don't really actually want that sugar. And then we start guiding them to hyper learning. Cause when you're in that state, as you know, you can really intensely learn things and read and take in information. And where I'm at after all these years is that pick us, you know, I do this twice a year at least, I try to do even a third one or I'm probably going to do a fourth one this year. Where I'm at, as everyone is - another challenge for me. So this one, the latest one was I'm just going to sit home and do my normal work as I would normally do and just not eat and just doing normal water fast, but just do everything normal.

David Wolfe: Like my normal workload. I'm not going to rest, I'm not going to do anything like that, which I don't recommend for new people. Definitely rest. Yes, definitely rest. But no, I've been doing this a long time, so I was like, I got to have to challenge myself. You know, each time though, the last one that I did in the Equinox in 2019 - September, October, 2019. That one was about doing my normal fast while traveling and doing all, that's intense. That was intense. I did a six hour event on the fourth day of water fast. That was intense. I have to say, I was like, Oh man. But just, you know, somehow you know when it is when you fast and you can just keep pulling on something, always extra in there. Keep pulling up these resources.

David Wolfe: You're like 'Oh my God, there's more in there'. And that gets us into, by the way, the appropriate strategy for nutrition that I really liked, the Dallas strategy, which is when you are eating, make sure you're nourishing yourself with longevity substances and herbs and wild food that give you more than just your daily nutrition requirements, more than just the surface stuff that are actually going deeper. You know, the Taoists call them the treasures, you know, Dow or they would call it Shen, which is the spiritual treasure. Jing, which is the primordial life force treasure. And then Shen of course, the way you mobilize your energy, which we all are familiar with, the Bruce Lee style stuff. And then, you know, when you put that all together, you develop will where you can manifest better if you're nourishing yourself in all of those ways.
David Wolfe: So that's, you know, when people want to go deeper with me in a non fasting environment, with my inner circle or something, then we get into those kinds of conversations - here's chaga mushroom, here's how you use it. Here's why it's a Jing substance. It's sitting on that tree right there for 20 years. All of a sudden one day you come off, you break that thing off, how many times you eating anything that's been there, 20 years living, right. You know, stuff like that. So, you know, we get into that - why is it a longevity substance as well as cause that got that going on. And so there's many, many layers to all this. But the main thing today I think for most of us is detox. It's a prerogative. We pretty much have to detox. And like you were saying, that tribal instinct comes in. So when we do it together, it's just easier. It's so much easier. It's impossible by yourself. You can get together with other people. No problem. We got it.

Wade Lightheart: You got some good points there on particularly on kind of the long elements. And then how would someone maybe schedule many detoxes or regular components throughout the year in between these kind of bigger pushes, if you will. How would you suggest or recommend things that they could use in order to enhance detoxification in the body?

David Wolfe: Well, you know, I've always recommended activated charcoal. Another thing I recommend, and I actually have your enzymes right here, which you know, I'm so stoked to have these right here. I'm just getting on the enzymes. Lots of water, enzymes, less food, skip a meal, skip two meals, do all liquid day. But the best time is you usually come around the full moon on a weekend. Right? So this is the normal working environment that we're in, which we're not in right now. But when we get back to that Friday, Saturday, Sunday is a really good time to just rest and fast. I do want to bring this up. One of the gals who has worked for me for over 10 years, she was having a lot of problems and I was like 'you didn't do the cleanse with us and you didn't do a fast with us and you really need to do some cleansing and you gotta do it right now cause it's dope. Springtime is still good. You can still do this.' She heard that message. I kind of kept her up a little bit. She did I think a couple of days on liquids and then went right to water. She's on her sixth or seventh day on water right now. And guess what? All her symptoms went away.

Wade Lightheart: It's super powerful. I was just talking with Oz Garcia the other day. We had him on the podcast and that's how he got started. He got started and his whole healthcare, and he was a photographer in New York and he had chronic migraines. His parents had chronic migraines and he read Paul Braggs, 'The miracle of fasting.' I mean amazing, right? And he said - 'yeah, I got a migraine and I sat in a room for two days just drinking water and it went away!' And I was like, this doesn't make sense. How does this work? Now, 50 years later he's a world renowned author who incorporated fasting. So I think that's a really important component, you talked about going in and we talked about the piece of it. I think it's also just important. How do you come out of a detoxification experience? Cause it's not like, you know, you run out and go eat the food that you just left behind 10, 12, 14 days ago. What do you do coming out of it and what are some mistakes people make? And what are some principles that people need to inquire or re-incorporate.

David Wolfe: One of the things that I love about the messaging services that you can have on your phone is it allows you to go those extra days with people. But we don't tell them right up front, it depends on how far they're going. You always have to come out of that cleanse gently. And let's say you did a two week cleanse, you come out of it for a week, it's half the amount of time, right? If let's say you're going to do a month long cleanse, well then you're going to take two weeks to come back to normal. That's for sure. It's always half the half as much. And so I don't tell people that until we're already more than halfway in. Then we have that conversation. Cause then I got up there, hooked in there.

David Wolfe: They can't go back. They're already too far in. And then what's cool about the way we do it, especially with the two weeks of when we really prep them for the water fast, by the time they get to that day 15 where they're going to go on water. They're already really in because they've already spent 15 days working on themselves and it's not that much of a jump to go that next little step. So the preparation is very key. Once you come out of it, let's say you did a week long water fast and you did two week long cleanse, you're going to take, I don't know, 10-11 days to come back. You come in slow just the way you went in. So you go back to liquids, maybe go to coconut water and juices and then step by step you go 'can we have a salad after two to three days?' Then after that you're like, okay, I'm going to have some avocado and you just come back slowly and you ease back into it. And what I like about those messaging services. The reason why I brought that up is because I'm still there with them on day 25, you know, even though it was really an on day 21 as day 25. So we're still together right now and our cleanse ended. Geez, where are we at? This is may, our cleanse ended in beginning or end of March.

Wade Lightheart: Oh wow. So that's really wild.

David Wolfe: So we're still in touch, you know, because some people weren't really far in, you know, it took them a while to come back out. So we were just there everyday like 'Hey, don't, don't go, don't have any cooked food, don't have any bread. You gotta just give it another three days and you go to this instead'. That kind of stuff.

Wade Lightheart: Now, are there any other elements or things that you suggest or recommend or books or things, some guidelines for people to go and then also kind of the things that you offer as well in the services of adding your expertise and your guidance in your community and your accountability systems that you built. If you could share with our listeners some of those things, I think that'd be really valuable because I know there's people sitting there going 'I need to do this. How do I do this? When can I do the next connect? I can do a cleanser. I can do a fast with 

David Wolfe'. You know, that sounds pretty exciting. It's really fun. It's so cool. There's two key books. You know these books. I just want to throw that in there because the buys.

David Wolfe: Okay. Still today, which is 'Rational Fasting' and the 'Mucusless Diet Healing System' by Arnold Ehret - those two books. You read those books, you're going to be darn inspired. Especially if you are fasting. I mean, you can't believe how much more powerful fast becomes when you're reading about it while you're doing it. There's of course Paul Bragg's book 'The miracle fasting'. When I was in Edmonton and I think I was already into the water fast. Maybe I was heading into a water fast and I went over to a friend's place and all of a sudden she comes out with these Paul Bragg little booklets. They go for like $300 on the internet. You can't find them. And she just gave them to us. And so I'm like, you know what? I'm going to read this. I'm reading these during the fast. Here's one of them right here. This is, this is called 'New science of health for peace of mind and prolongation of life'. That was one of them that we found.

David Wolfe: So epic, he starts talking about stuff that you're just like 'Oh, this is man, this and this.' I got to this passage right here and here he talks about when you're doing cleansing and when you're working on yourself, you want to get to the two mountain tops. And why are mountain tops important? And this is something that comes down to the grounding and negative ion thing. Another thing about negative ions is they concentrate more at the tip. You get what I'm saying? So when you get to the top of that mountain ridge, there's more negative ions there because it's a point, right? Just like if I had a needle and I was sticking it up like this, and when the other part was in the ground that the electrons are not evenly spaced on that needle, they're actually more at the tip.

David Wolfe: That's the idea of a lightening rod or grounding rod. And so that was one of the things that was in here. And I was like 'Oh, that'. And it just led me down this whole amazing experience in my mind of being in Peru and going to the mountain tops with the native people and they call them 'the Apu' now, they have this thing about the mountain tops that they're like gods. And all of a sudden I had this piece and then I had the electrical medicine piece and then I had the shamans from Macu Picchu and it was like 'Oh, you put that stuff together, you get inspired, man'.

Wade Lightheart: It's so funny cause as I'm doing alternate fasting right now and getting lots of sun into the system and I'm hear in Sedona, of course, as you know, the vortexes and being up every morning and every evening I'm on the top of one of these mountains meditating with the sun shining and everything. And it's a transformative experience where you just feel connected with everything. It's like you're in the universal wifi signal, if you will. That's beautiful. So how do people find out more about you and where you're going and some of these things that you're offering. Can you please open it up and share your wisdom, where they can find more about your schedule, whenever that starts up again and on how to access maybe some of the offerings that you have for our listeners.

David Wolfe: Awesome. Well, one thing I probably will not do for a while is get back on the road again. Like the old days. I mean 26 years straight is crazy. That puts me in a category, very few people and I've been traveling since I was a little baby, you know, cause we used to fly all over the world as kids and I think I'm good. I mean just let that go. So the live events, you may, you'd be lucky to catch me on a real live event. More likely it's going to be an internet thing. But one of the things that I like to do is just direct people to my main hub, which is my website, And from there, so much stuff is coming out of there.

David Wolfe: And then from there you can track me down an Instagram, David Avocado Wolfe on Instagram. David Avocado, Wolfe on Facebook. I'm not into censorship and what's going on these days, I'm really guiding everybody over to a platform that I've been using for years. I've been on telegram messenger for years and that's an encrypted platform originally created by a Russian dissident named Pablo who had his social media site stolen by Putin. He fled the country and started telegram in London, most of them, most of the users are Russians actually, I mean now they have 400 million users worldwide. It's a massive thing, but I got people there cause there's no algorithm, there's no censorship.

David Wolfe: I can just say whatever the heck I want on my daily news feeds, I run a daily news feed there. It's also under David Avocado Wolfe. But you know, if you get to my site or my YouTube, you'll get directed there. And YouTube is the best day ever. It's still hard to find me. YouTube actually, you know, I just do want to put this out there cause I want to take a little jab at them. Actually an uppercut. They deleted my page with no strikes, no warnings and no real anything. This was in 2017. So I have a little pit, 10 years of work, a whole history of stuff. They just deleted it. So you know there was no strikes, no warnings, no nothing. They just deleted it and they said we're not letting you appeal it.

David Wolfe: And I was like, this is crazy. And people were like, why didn't you sue them? It's because it wasn't worth it for me at that time cause it was more big on Facebook and I was more over there and they saw me coming to YouTube and they're like, forget it. Now YouTube has descended into total censorship and it's basically their platform. And now we're over on telegram messenger, but I do have a little site back on YouTube just to direct people away from YouTube essentially to telegram, messenger and see if you need it. Video instructions of how to get on telegram messenger. It's there on YouTube.

Wade Lightheart: Beautifully said, before we wrap up, cause I know your time is always a factor - we're fighting against it seems in these interviews, any insights or messages that you would like to share with our listeners? Some that's straight from heart story, from spirits, straight from the transmission that you always carry with you.
David Wolfe: Well, you know me as good as anybody and my phrase that I've had since I was probably 15 years old as far as I can trace it back, is 'today is the best day ever'. Today is the best day ever. Today is all we got. And it better be the best day ever. So no matter what your situation is, you know, like my cousin, I can't get to him. You know, we grew up together, we spent every day together and every summer together, you know, and he's in the hospital and he's in San Diego. - I can't get there. But it can still be the best ever. And I'm out there working in the yard. I'm connecting with him through my heart, you know, and I'm just sending him vibrations. I could feel him, you know, and I was like 'he's getting better.' He's getting better. And you know what - he is! I just heard from my mom, he's getting better. And I was like, wow. You know, that's the power of the best day ever. No matter what the situation is, no matter what the crisis is, no matter how bad it looks, there's always something inside that can flip it and flip that script into the best ever of all time.

Wade Lightheart: Beautifully said. And, you know, I just want to thank you. You're probably one of the most inspiring, positive, uplifting speakers of our time. And obviously you've set a trend that you're the gold standard of, for people inside our industry. And I'm just very grateful that you were gracious enough to spend a little over an hour with our listeners. And I know they're gonna laugh up this information and I encourage them to connect. All the show notes will be in here and all the connections and all the little micro mentions that David throws out is there's always like a treasure trove of great ideas and information and tidbits that can transform your life. So please go through some of those references because every one of them is a pot gold at the end of the rainbow. Thanks so much for joining us today, David.

David Wolfe: I mean, it's been an honor for me. It's so great to catch up. I'm glad that you got a little bit of time for yourself. I needed an excuse to get off the road and this was it. And by the way, I do want to just put though a thumbs up for your products. Really good job. You guys sent me a bunch of your samples, and I was like 'Oh my God, I'm already taking your products'. You know? That's how much I love your enzymes and just what you're doing. So I do want to all your listeners out there, to confirm that your stuff is next level and really appreciate it.

Wade Lightheart: Thanks so much, David.

David Wolfe: Really appreciate you having me on here and hopefully we'll get you back again soon.

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