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068: Life At Almost 30 and Beyond, with Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik

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Many of us have or had certain ideas about how life at almost 30 and beyond would be – but what happens if we reach 30 and life doesn’t look the way we envisioned it? We can follow the example set by today’s guests, Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik of the Almost 30 podcast.

Almost 30 is a podcast, but it is also a global brand and community. It came to be when two LA-based best friends, Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik, joined forces to talk about life at almost 30. With real and raw voices, they talk about everything from entrepreneurship to spirituality to health and wellness. Today the show has been downloaded over 12 million times, and is supported and inspired by an online and offline global community steeped in personal growth and empowerment.

We begin the show by exploring the origin story of the Almost 30 podcast. Krista tells us she had just moved to LA to chase her dreams. She wanted to be an entrepreneur, but was felt like she failed at everything she tried. Lindsey is an actress and was pursuing that line of work after ending a significant relationship. They came together and felt like they were both going through these real transitions. As they talked about their lives they realized they felt more lost than ever before, but they also understood they couldn’t be the only ones feeling that way.

So they thought why not create a podcast together about what they were dealing with? And that’s exactly what they did.
For the next seven months they recorded on the floor of their closet – Lindsey says it was crappy content but they practiced and practiced til they really found the format that works best for them. That format has caught on, and today they reach people in over 161 different countries!

On this episode, Lindsey, Krista and I also talk about the impact of social media (especially within certain generations), how nature helps ground us and how hormones (and birth control for women) significantly impact every aspect of our lives.

That leads us into the topic of biohacking: Krista is a huge proponent of magnesium and takes it every day. She also uses a vibration plate to get her lymphatic system moving and she detoxes with her ClearLight sauna, too. We dive into more details of their biohacks plus their podcasting mentorship programs. We even chat about aliens!

Tune in to hear this fun, entertaining and insightful episode of Awesome Health Podcast.

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Wade Lightheart: Good morning, good afternoon and good evening. It's Wade T Lightheart from BiOptimizers with the Awesome Health Podcast. And I am pumped and excited today because we've got the ladies from "Almost 30" - Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik. And let me tell you something about this part, cause' I was listening to their podcasts, cause' being, you know, an old guy, a veteran in the health industry, I was like, what's going on with people in this Almost 30 world what am I not missing? And I was listening into this podcast, which by the way, is one of the top 50 podcasts out there. And these girls are known for the relatable conversations. They cover everything, wellness, entrepreneurship, spirituality, self-development. What's really funny is they're real and they're hilarious. And then everybody says: Oh, you know, LA, so kind of like, you know, LaLa and I got on your podcast the other day. And I was like, these girls are so cool and so real. And they're professionals, they're professionals in the podcast. We're gonna talk a little bit about that, but I want to welcome you both to the show. Welcome.

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: Oh my God. Thank you so much. We are so excited. Love working with you and your team and yeah, it's going to be so much fun to talk today. I'm glad that you got to listen to a little bit of Almost 30. You don't have to be 30. We started it when we were turning 30 and we now over.

Wade Lightheart: But you are still almost 30. It doesn't mean that you're below 30, right? Like Almost 30, I feel like I got younger listening to the podcast for just a little bit. And I'm like, man, if I turn this on next thing you know, I'll be 25.

Lindsey Simcik: One of the benefits.

Wade Lightheart: Okay. So how did the whole story get started? I want to know the background. Podcasting is such a cool thing. And there's a lot of podcasters out there. What makes you two? First off, there's both of you on the podcast. That's pretty powerful, I think in itself, cause' it creates that back and forth dynamic. The person comes in as third person. How did that happen? What got into this? I'm curious.

Krista Williams: Yeah, so we started… I had just moved to LA. I had been chasing various dreams. I was in the corporate world, but wanted to do something different. I always wanted to be an entrepreneur, but was failing, you know, in everything that I was doing. Lindsey was here in LA. She was an actress. She is an actress. So, she was pursuing, you know, the creative arts. And when we came together, we both were going through these really real transitions where I wasn't finding my purpose or passion. And she had just gotten out of a relationship and she was navigating her own things. And when we met, we were like, we can't be the only ones in our late twenties that feel like we don't have all the answers and that feel like we're more confused than ever. You know, I remember being in my early twenties and feeling like by the time I'm 28, I'm going to have a house and kids and I'll be married, and I'll be a millionaire. And being 28 and being like, I have none of those things and I feel really lost.

Krista Williams: So I'd always been a fan of podcast and I was like, you know, what would you want to start a show? And so in 2016, we started to record on our closet floors. We recorded for seven months, just a bunch of crap content. We practiced, we tried, we tried segments, we tried all these things. And we eventually launched our show. And it's evolved so much over the past four years. And it really just stays true to, we talk about things that help people along their evolution. We talk about health things. We talk about spirituality, all the things that you mentioned, but we really just try to approach it from a really relatable and honest perspective. I grew up in Ohio, she grew up on the East coast and we were never LA people. We were never people that thought we were going to be, you know, these famous public figures. And so, we really just try to be as grounded as we can because we are our audience. So yeah, it's grown from there and now here we are.

Wade Lightheart: Wow. So, but now you're famous public figures.

Krista Williams: Yes. On the other side of that, there's not like a difference, but still…

Wade Lightheart: You can start a whole thing, just talk about the Zen of fame, right? Give it up is the first pattern to get there. You know, because I think there's a lot of people that are chasing a lot of things. Tell me about that. Like, you know, I grew up in a different era, you know, I'm a gen X, or as they call us, which we're in between everything where there's nothing for us, we don't even get the benefit of outrage. So which is a cool culture. That's all in cancel culture, outrage culture. We didn't even know any of that. If we were outraged, you just got punched out at the bar. That was what happened if you got outraged, you know, cause' everything was physical. Like you had to talk to people physically, you didn't have phones, you didn't have things.

Wade Lightheart: You couldn't go… Bullying was like, somebody punched you in the face and you either punched them back. It's not like clickety click stuff. And also we didn't have the proliferation of inside this kind of like, you know, how this kind of glamorous lifestyle that kind of comes out, that everything. And there's so much pressure on younger people. What are some of the things that you felt that are really important for people kind of growing up through that culture and how it impacts their health, their spirituality? Because it's like, for me, I didn't even know anything other than spirituality, other than a book and didn't know anything other than health than what Arnold Schwartzenegger told me in his encyclopedia, that was it. These are books.

Wade Lightheart: There was no interaction, no personality, none of that stuff. And now we've got… How do you sort through the mess? So how does a person do that? And what are the things that come up for you?

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah, I think the first thing that comes to mind, I mean, social media in particular has been like the greatest connector and also the greatest disconnector to like my own intuition, my own sense of oneness with the universe. And so like, I think being very honest about that relationship between myself and social media or just the internet and social platforms at large has been really important. And I think the awareness of like when I'm turning to or leaning on those platforms tells me a lot about where I'm at. And it's been really cool since moving out to LA having, you know, there's my ability to go outside and be in nature is a privilege and quite easy to do here, whether it's the ocean or the mountains, desert, et cetera, or even just like a local park it's, you know, right at my fingertips.

Lindsey Simcik: And I think being so connected to nature in that way has reminded me of who I am. And it sounds really weird, but I've been very cognizant to make the proportion of how I'm connecting to be in person and in nature rather than online, because I was just kind of losing myself in the comparison game. I was losing myself in like these portrayals of people's lives that I know from my experience aren't necessarily the whole story or the whole truth, right? Like I'm putting up some highlight reels on my Instagram as well, but I also know that I'm struggling with this thing and that thing, whether in relationships or career or personally, that I don't necessarily share all the time. So I'm very aware of the duality there, but yeah, I think for people coming up in this time and being so connected to social media, it's really turning up our awareness to when we are dependent on it. And when we are leaning on it and how we can connect further instead to ourselves, to nature, to the universe, God, spirit, whatever you believe in. So that it doesn't become this kind of warped world that we're living in.

Krista Williams: Yeah. And it's funny, you said about health and wellness too, like that evolution and shift because, you know, I grew up in Ohio, so we used to go to the Arnold classic, me and my dad, obviously. So that was my understanding of health and wellness. My dad had all the protein shakes in his bag. He would go lift like that. I was like, okay, high protein, low fat diet, no carbs, you know, maybe brown rice at dinner and doing all of that sort of way to get fit and be healthy. And nowadays we know so much more about recovery. We know so much more about nutrition. We know so much more about the way to treat our body to have optimal health. And that it's not just for the aesthetics. You know, I think there was that period where it was fully aesthetically focused. And for us, it's like unlearning all of these things about nutrition and wellness that we were taught and in same with your generation. So to understand that it's more holistic and that there's other ways to get to our optimal health.

Wade Lightheart: Funny, you should mention that cause' we have a philosophy of framework, which is a triangle, which is aesthetics, performance and health. Most people are attracted into the fitness industry typically through aesthetics. That seems to be the general thing, the beauty industry, the fitness industry, all of this, and a l7ot of the social media driven, is it look a certain way, who cares what the cost is. And then they might move to a performance based mentality. And you look at Ivy league universities, which has a proliferation of Adderall usage and these sorts of things. And at some point the health gets compromised, like these kinds of goals.

Wade Lightheart: And then that's when you kind of go to the third part of the triangle, very few people go to health off the bat. They're usually there's some sort of external. Do you think it's harder to achieve your goals in life nowadays, not because there's not the right information, but there's too much information to choose from and it's hard to stay on track? Like, I mean, I lifted in a barn for four years before I even got to go to a gym, you know, like I built my own, you know what I mean? Like it was just, that was normal in my life, but like that that'd be insane nowadays. No one would ever do that. Is that an issue?

Lindsey Simcik: For sure. I think choice fatigue is a real thing. You know, whether it's on Instagram, online, we're getting all of this information. Even as podcasters, we interview incredible experts every day and sometimes we're like, wait, what do I need? What do I believe? And what should I try? And so, like to my earlier point of like really tuning in to like how I'm feeling to my body, to my spirit, to my mind. And there will be experimentation with various things, but I do think that because we have so much stimulus in terms of our feeds and we're scrolling and we're seeing so many things every single day to buy, to hop on the trend, it's mportant that we, you know, really tune in and ask our bodies and understand what we actually need rather than what people are telling us.

Lindsey Simcik: We should do. Because like lifting in a barn might be perfect for you. Right? Like it might give you everything you need, but just because it might not be aesthetically as cool, you know, your mind might say, well, you should probably get a membership to that fancy gym down the street because X, Y, Z. Right? But it's like, no, what do I really need? So I think I'm just asking myself those questions a lot more. I do feel really blessed that we have so many options and that we're learning so many different things as it relates to health and wellness, and spirituality. But it just all comes back to like trusting our own intuition there.

Krista Williams: Yeah. And I remember I was in New York and I was all about the aesthetics. So I was working out like more than seven times a week. I was, you know, my leanest and, and all of these things. And I was really subscribing to like low carb, whatever. And when I moved to LA, I got really unwell. You know, I had adrenal fatigue and I started to be really inflamed and all the hit classes in the way that I was operating, which was high protein, low fat, low carb diet wasn't working anymore. And you know, having the health issues that I had for the next year or so, where I was trying to get myself back to healing, you know, my hormones and all these things was like, when I, of course got to like realize that health is more than just the aesthetics that it was like, I was unable to show up at work cause' I was unwell. I was, didn't feel good in my relationship. And it was just showing up in other areas of my life. So it brought me to the point where I was like, okay, health is more than just my weight or a number.

Lindsey Simcik: And I think during COVID too, it's really taught both of us that, you know, we don't need all the classes we don't need, you know, to go to all these different, like healthy restaurants, we can make food, we can really simplify what we're doing, eating, consuming every day and still feel really good.
Wade Lightheart: So what are some of the things that you did in the digital world too? Cause' there's two conflicting components here and they're not really conflicting, but the casual listener is going to say, well, wait a second. Here's these super successful podcasts. They are talking about really cool stuff all the time and I want to be like them. And then you're also saying: Hey, we've got these feeds and stuff that are causing collusion. So how did you figure out that kind of magic combination of being able to take control of your health and your personal life and your spirituality, which we'll dive into a little bit more, but still be able to do, be successful in that world, which is the world that we live in today? Let's not kid ourselves. It's a dominant form of media right now. How are you able to do that? And what were some of the ahas or the obstacles, or it was like, okay, I gotta stop doing this, I got to start doing this? Like, how did you navigate all of that? Cause' I think that's where people get jammed. I have a lot of people that come to me that grown up in this age and they're like: Hey man, I'm doing this. And they're amazing. They're smart. They're like, they can do all these different things, but it's like, they can do all of these things okay and very few things for the longterm to get the kind of success. So how did you navigate that?

Krista Williams: Yeah. Well Lindsey and I, you know, for the first two years, for the first part of the podcast, I was unemployed. So I had quit my job to pursue another thing. And we had extra time cause' I was unemployed during that time and she had a full time job and then I got a full time job. So for the first two years we were building the business with full time jobs. So it was on the weekends, it was at night, it was during my lunch break. It was like all these things to really make it work. And after that point, you know, we were finally able to quit, but it wasn't just like we fell into it. It wasn't like, you know, we were gifted anything. We've never joined a network we've never taken on outside money. We've always just been thinking about it in the longterm of like, this is a business and the way that we're going to establish and set up our business is by Googling shit, by listening to other podcasts, by figuring it out rather than like being handed anything.

Krista Williams: But you know, it can be something where people see anyone that's successful and they're like: Oh, it must be easy for them, you know, they have a platform, they have a show. But it is one of those things where the more people you have listening, the more responsibility you have and the more feedback you get. So there is more pressure as it gets bigger and bigger. And I'm trying to change that narrative in my mind, but it can be even more challenging. The more successful you are cause' you have more eyes on you. And you know, this was something that Lindsey and I never really set out to have the intention to have a full time team, or a business, or tour, or whatever. We really just had the true intention of like exploring this conversation we had together. Enjoying the conversation, enjoying the ride.

Krista Williams: And it really just grew from that. And you know, we help people launch their podcasts and shows and sometimes it, you know, it makes me a little sad when people start shows and they're like, okay, how do I monetize, I've had one episode out, I want to make money. And it's like, I totally honored that like making money is important and it's a right. You know, everyone deserves it, but it is a little hard because you don't make money just by doing the thing. You make money by like doing the thing well for a long time. And so it really takes people a lot longer than people think. And if you're doing it for the right intention, it will happen.

Wade Lightheart: So true. You know, a lot of people don't know that Matt and I, who started our company 16 years ago, we didn't pay ourselves for 10 years. We just kept hiring more people and building team members and rolling the money, like even now, today, we don't take that much money out of the company really, because it's the mission. We're on a mission. And the mission is more important than everything else inside the company and bringing people into that and stuff. Talk about, I'd like to hear, how did you kind of make that? The daily routine that you go through in order to produce at that level? What drove you at that time to push through those early growth phases and all the pressure, like, you know, working a job and doing this on the side and try to? Like, I think a lot of people look at the end result and they don't get into the bricks and mortar, the pain and the struggles and the things that almost take you out to half a dozen times in the fights between people and stuff like that… Like, did that stuff happen to you or was it all just smooth sailing?

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah, it's so interesting. I've been like reflecting a lot lately and you know, to Krista's point before, we had full time jobs for two years, which takes the pressure off of this thing that you're building, that's bringing you so much joy. It doesn't mean it's always easy, but it's really something that you're excited about. And because we weren't putting that pressure on it to make us money, I do believe that helped us to keep showing up for it and to be flexible and how it was going to grow and to become what it is and to make mistakes, right? Because if it's going to make us money out the gate, I think there is this, like let's walk on eggshells, let's make sure we make money, let's make sure we do everything right. So because it has to produce. And so we were making a ton of mistakes out the gate, but we committed and we showed up quite literally every single day for those first few years recording, we would, you know, be recording at night on the weekends.

Lindsey Simcik: We would be you know, creating. We did events quite early on with our community in LA and in friend's backyards, we would do soul cycle rides. We would, you know, any way to bring the community together. And what I realize now is like, we were really kind of collecting so much data in those early years. Especially from our community on what type of content we should create, you know, who we should have on the show, how we could show up better for them. And really like, as Krista said, like it was that intention. It was that intention to like learn right along with everyone, you know, we're in it together. We're hopefully making people feel less alone in all of this. And so with that really strong heart centered intention, I was like, I'm going to do this no matter what we're going to show up, no matter what we're going to make it happen, no matter what. And then like Krista talked about the monetization piece, cause that happened, you know, soon into it, but it was definitely built on that heart centeredness and that emphasis on relationships.

Krista Williams: Yeah. And I was just thinking too, when you were talking about, you know, entrepreneurship, it's like such an interesting shift in culture where it's like, entrepreneurs are like the sexy thing. It's the cool thing, because everyone's seeing like, you know, Uber, people making all this money and the Silicon Valley moment and on Instagram, you know, the entrepreneur has their computer by the pool and all that. And it's, you know, there is such a beauty to being an entrepreneur, but for me, feels like it's not harder, but it feels like a different path. You know, when I was in a corporate job, it was like a low level of unhappiness for eight years.

Krista Williams: And when you work and own your own company, it's like the highs and lows are just insane. You're super high. And then you're low and it's you ride this rollercoaster of all these emotions and all these like, you know, issues that you would have never thought of dealing with. You're learning something every single day, like who would've known that, you know, we have to do these things with taxes, who would've known that, you know, the laws changed about this, who would've known that you have to do these legal things. You know, there's just so much that you're like, okay, wow, here we are like, we're suing someone or, you know, here we are really doing these things and you just have to really figure it out as you go. And it's not for the faint of heart. And I think that's why, and I don't mean to be, and I'm not talking down to anyone that's doing anything, but it's like, there's a reason why some people succeed and don't, and it's really challenging to continue to go on, even when it's really dark, which I'm sure, you know, as well.

Wade Lightheart: Let's talk about that for a second because one of the criticisms of youth today is the snowflake culture, right? This is like people have lived in such an advantage far as information, technology and components, and ability, and mobility. Like there's just so much. If you look at the person today, they have more access to everything than ever before in history as it is. If you look at it from a human perspective, even the poorest people in the world is living lives that were unimaginable even a hundred years ago. I'm not necessarily buying that narrative, but what is the particular challenges of people growing up in the digital age and how do they differ when it comes to achieving anything, whether that's health success or business success? What do you think is that, that piece and where do they get a bad rap and where is that true? Right? You know, like what do you think?

Krista Williams: I think with every new generation, the older generation talks shit about them. That's just like how it goes in life. You know, it's kind of you know, you never realize how good it was or that kind of narrative is just continuous with evolution as people. But, you know, the snowflake narrative is, feels like to me, there's a generation that is our generation and below that is finally dealing with the emotions and feelings like you talked about before people would just fight outside. But nowadays people aren't in person as much, people are having discourse online. People are really going through things as a collective and expressing them more so and feeling the permission more so to express things that maybe our parents would have never. So I think that is definitely happening. But then there is also too where there's just this way that people live their lives and then see on Instagram that they have an opportunity to compare themselves every day.

Krista Williams: And kids are having their brains rewired by social media so that they are addicted to the dopamine. They're addicted to their numbers or their worth is based on numbers that they see very clearly every single day. So, you know, I have such compassion for the younger generation for that, but I think a lot of the unhappiness has to do, you know, with so much. And yes, of course there is the social media component, but there also is things about our food. You know, there's things about our water. There's things about the health of people living regularly that like older generations didn't necessarily deal with as it relates to like our nutrition. So there's so many different elements, but also there's like, as a last thing I could go on forever, but there's this collective thought that like everyone is always so unhappy. And that just because we're reading people tweeting about these things, that that's truth. And we also need to remember that like 1% of the population is on Twitter as a whole. And it's like, we take these narrow situations and apply it to everything when it might not be true to collectively

Lindsey Simcik: And I also, I think like on social media, one of the bright spots is that we are having conversations about things like mental health that maybe, you know my parents' generation didn't. And so yes, there is that kind of constant need for validation on social media, but there are also just these you know, spaces where people feel like, wow, I can talk about this. I feel supported from like people all over the world. So I do think there are some bright spots and you know, even our generation, I mean, we deal with it as well. And as like public figures of sorts learning publicly is like a whole other thing, which I would argue that people, anyone with a platform, anyone with an Instagram account, could be learning publicly and kind of like sharing online. So there is like an interest, which I would think, you know, 10, 20 years down the line, people will be doing studies on of how that affects someone's, you know, mental, emotional, physical growth.

Wade Lightheart: Yeah. You bring up a couple of items, which I have, you know… Interesting kind of like I'd like to dive into, which is electromagnetic pollution, addiction to neurological devices and how that is changing our brain physiology, hormone disruptors, insider food. For example, for men and we can get into women in a second, I won't speak on behalf of women, but testosterone levels are down 30% across the board at every age level. So the average 30 year old has the testosterone levels of a 70 year old in the 1970s. I have a probably, it's half a dozen friends. Actually, I was out to a year and a half ago. I was out to a party with a friend of mine, who's 30, he's a well known influencer, killing it. Great guy. I coached him when he was 18 years old, when he was living on the couch and he's just crushed it. And he's an amazing person. And we went out with a bunch of mostly his age group. I'm the old guy in the group and it's kind of fun.

Wade Lightheart: And I was shocked to find out that virtually all of the guys were on TRT, testosterone replacement therapy, they're 30. And I was like: Oh my God, like this isn't about people who are taking anabolic steroids, say for a performance component. And I want to separate the two between TRT, and I do believe it's a natural result looking into computers all the time, bringing up the adrenal response, you know, constantly living off a cortisol and adrenaline, which then pushes down to testosterone levels inside the body, through the pathways that goes on. What do you feel is happening? Number one, do you concur with that? And what's happening from a female perspective? You know, because we're in the middle of the greatest experiment in history. I don't think people have really recognized that. And that since the 1960s women are the first species ever on this planet to be able to control their birth cycle, right? Like that's a major evolutionary, like biological, the sociological component. And now we're trying to figure that out. Maybe it'll take us 10 generations. Maybe it'll take us a thousand. I don't know. How does that impact young women today, particularly? I'm curious about because there's a pressure to be a beauty queen and a fitness star and, you know, tantric, sex, Yogi, and an enlightened being and killing it in business and a mom. And by the way, in the spare time, they make these amazing meals that look great and cruise around in a, you know, top down on these amazing vacations and stuff like this. It's not even, it's like, how does anybody think that that's really possible or real? So what have you guys experiences on that?

Krista Williams: I mean, there's so many, you know, I'm glad you talked about, you know, the environmental factors and the things that are in our meat, the things that are in our water, you know, there's like low traces of birth control also in a lot of public water. So that's a lot of, you know, the reason that people wouldn't talk about that testosterone is also going down because men are consistently consuming, you know, low levels of birth control. So there's so much happening here. And I think that for us as women, we went through our own hormone journey, you know, mine was, I was taking too many stimulants, I was doing too much.
Wade Lightheart: What kind of stimulants were you taking?

Krista Williams: I had a little drug phase. I had a little party phase for sure.

Wade Lightheart: Yeah. We all had a little drug phase. That's okay.

Krista Williams: I was doing my thing. I liked uppers. So I would do things in that. So that was partying every weekend. And then that was also Adderall, you know? Sometimes. And then that was also diet pills. You know, I was taking like, whatever diet pills were around town.

Wade Lightheart: Were you getting them through a prescription or were you buying them like off market?

Krista Williams: No, off-market. It was really like Cellucor diet pills. There was like D. And then just any ones that were like trendy. I never got a prescription. And the Adderall I got from friends, you know, as you do normally.

Wade Lightheart: Did you like Adderall? Why did you do it?

Krista Williams: Cause' it makes you not eat and I'm saying no shame. And then you could stay up all night. So, but that just really all of these things, including all the other factors that we normally deal with really fucked with my hormones. And if you talk to us or any of our friends, you know, the people of our community are women that are realizing the impact of these things. Maybe as a small group, cause' I don't think anyone has that particular story like I do, but more so that they've been on birth control for 15 years and they put on birth control when they were 15. They didn't really realize the implications of it. And now they're 30 and they're like, what is going on? So there are such deeper impacts of birth control that we didn't even really think about, that we really woke up to when we started the show and were like: I don't know if this is normal.

Lindsey Simcik: I guess I went off birth control. It's probably about three, three and a half years now.

Wade Lightheart: When did you start? Like, how old were you?

Lindsey Simcik: I started at 14. No, 18. So I'm 32 now.

Wade Lightheart: So this is, to a lot of people it's almost late nowadays. They're putting them on like 14, 15 years old. Like, what is that? I want to talk about that right now, cause' there might be some people who are thinking about putting their kids on birth control and, you know, that's like a conversation that kind of emerges somehow with parents. Like what was that like as a young woman deciding you're going to go on birth control and how much information were you really given about the implications of that?

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah, I started to be sexually active at 18 with my boyfriend and my mom found out and my mom had been on birth control for most of her life as well. I'm kind of in between kids and when she was younger. And so that was just her way of being like, okay, like if you're going to do this, like, I want you to be safe. And so there was that. I was also dealing with skin issues. So those two narratives of you have to be safe and also this clears up your skin. I was like, okay, cool. To be completely honest it felt like an initiation into womanhood. I was like, I'm a woman now. Like, this is cool. I'm in the club where I get to take a little pill everyday, which I hated. Like, you know, in the years leading up to when I went off of it, I remember just asking myself, I'm like, why am I taking this? Right? Like, it just this doesn't feel right. Granted, like, I didn't have any adverse effects except for waking when I initially went on it.

Wade Lightheart: Okay. Was that significant? It varies for some women and with different types of pills.
Lindsey Simcik: I was eating like a lot of pizza my freshman year of college. I gained like 20 pounds. So it is drinking, eating and birth control. I was not educated. I don't think my mom was either.

Wade Lightheart: That's the part that is really narrow. Like, they're not really telling you what is the implications hormonally, popping these pills when you're 15, 16, 17, 18 years old.

Lindsey Simcik: Absolutely not. And then when I went off of it and Krista has her own story as well, where, you know, it wasn't easy. My skin has always been something that I've, you know, dealt with in terms of like acne, but it definitely freaked out a little bit about six months after going off. Then after that, I was like, I'm so in tune with my body, it's the coolest thing ever, you know? So not only am I aware of like, okay, I'm going to have really high energy the first week of my cycle. Second week, it's still like on the rise, you know, testosterone and estrogen are rising. So I'm going to be active, creative. My mind is super sharp. And then I know week three and four, I'm going to alter my workouts. I'm going to alter what I eat, how I sleep. So it's actually been really cool to come back to myself in that way.

Krista Williams: Yeah. I think, you know, the moms that have, it's like they have the best intentions, you know, of course. There's no one that they want to, you know, protect more than their kids. So I think, you know, my intention of my mom was to avoid pregnancy. You know, she didn't want me to be someone that was young and that got pregnant. So that was what it was. And then it was like: Oh, you're going to have clear skin and whatever. So it just was like, when I was 26, I was like: Oh man, like, I don't really feel right. You know, this doesn't really feel good. So now, you know, I empathize with those mothers that are like: Oh, I know she might be sexually active or whatever, and I don't want them to potentially have a child pregnancy or, you know, young pregnancy. So it's really like, what do you do? But I don't know if birth control is like, as a whole, a societal solution to what's going on.

Wade Lightheart: Talk about the process of coming out of that. Like, what was the decision that said: Hey, you know, I need to get off this. And like, how did that work out for you? What made you make that decision?

Krista Williams: I think mine was… I was living in Chicago and I was kind of having my like spiritual, my like awakening in general. And I was just like, I don't know what it was. It was like an intuitive hit. I was like 26 maybe. And I was like, I think I want to get off of this. And so when I did, I felt like a new person. I felt like this was who I was. I was like: Oh, this is my personality. Not, you know, someone that was… I just was more emotional on birth control. It never really sat well with me. So mine was intuitive and it was easy for me. It felt great. I didn't really have any side effects or anything like that, which people can have I'm sure. So mine was just great to get off of it.

Krista Williams: But we do have women of our community that are trying to get off all the time, you know, and they're nervous because they're afraid that their cycles will be messed up or that they'll break out or all these things.But it is a really beautiful thing, like Lindsey said, when as a woman, you can tap into these like superpowers of the changing of your cycle over the next couple of months. And as women get more in tune with their bodies too, it's like empowering to as men, they can really figure out like with low T like what is actually going on here. And, you know, I do think that there's like a culture of fitness people and of like certain people in like almost a Silicon Valley way where they're just using testosterone to like, I don't know… It's almost like the new type of cool drug to be.
Wade Lightheart: A hundred percent. I mean the bottom line is if you go to Silicon Valley or if you go to New York city, you're competing against someone who is doing exoticness testosterone, they're using cognitive enhancers and whatever drug.

Krista Williams: Where do they get the T?

Wade Lightheart: What's that?

Krista Williams: Where do they get the testosterone?

Wade Lightheart: You can get it from your doctor. So there's two different. If you're doing testosterone replacement, you can get a replacement testosterone for that. You have a below average level of testosterone and they say, you gotta put it on. And that's usually a result because you were working online, burning out. It's not a question of, Hey, the culture is not healthy and I need to do something about it. It's like, no, how do I compete within this culture?

Wade Lightheart: And so, you know, especially for young men, and you can kind of do this exchange between the difference between men and women when it comes to hormonal components there, cause' I've never got into this. So I just kind of want to see where this is going. I think for a lot of guys, and especially with this biohacking community. Number one, you see the external guy, you know, with the perfect genetics that's ripped to shreds might be using a little testosterone here, he's just genetically gifted or what or whatever. And they're like, man, that's what I got to compare myself to. I got to go for that. Then they're comparing themselves to the, you know, the Silicon kid that at 24 is worth $150 million because he invented the new app and he's living the lifestyle. And then, they're watching Dan Bilzerian videos and think they need 400 girls, you know, trying to rape them at the party and then they listen to some other guy that has 195 IQ and has told them that, you know, Modafinil is one of the keys to unlock your super brain.

Wade Lightheart: So they're just like, I need to compete as a male. I'm going to do whatever it takes. So if I got to get TRT and that's not enough, I'm going to go to the local steroid dealer or imported, I got a hook. Or if I need Modafinil, I'm going to go to the gray market or I'm going to do what, like, you know, we all know that if you want, whatever it is, you're going to go get it. The culture though, is very interesting, the cultural pressure, I think from that. And going back to that social media thing, is this something that women do feel are struggling with? And when you talk about 'I didn't feel like me', I hear that a lot from women is that the kind of reports that you're getting that girls get on these hormones at young ages, cause' people don't realize that like the birth control pill is a steroid.

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah. I think it depends on the birth control. It depends on the person. But that is like the general narrative that we're hearing, where people just don't feel quite right. And I think, you know, I'm thinking about this in real time, so forgive me…
Wade Lightheart: Well, that's why I'm going there. Cause' I want to get into real.

Lindsey Simcik: It's like from a very early age, we're not necessarily taught to trust ourselves and our bodies, like, and I don't think it's like it's not to dog our parents or anything like that. It's just, I don't think that's what they were taught. And so you know, we're taught to depend on either whether it's medication or ask the doctor, this, that the other thing I think doctors are amazing. Obviously we need doctors. But there is just this intuitive piece, like with our bodies that I think would be who've these like future generations. And I think it's happening because our body has so much intelligence. It's sending us messages all the time. Like even just this week, I've been having like some interesting headaches. And so I've been really thinking about: okay, what is my body trying to tell me… Do I need more water? Is that the type of sleep I'm getting? Too much screen time? Right, instead of just popping the pill, nothing against like taking an Aleve or whatever, but it's like, let's really like tune into the body. I mean, we're hearing that so much and it's also a scary thing for women to kind of, to trust themselves. Again, it feels empowering, but also kind of scary because it is so much of an unlearning.
Wade Lightheart: Do you think that the external culture of social media, or is it something innate within growing up as a female nowadays in the world that makes a woman not trust herself or her trust in or what she's feeling?

Krista Williams: That's a good question. Yeah, I think social media exacerbates that. I mean, it's really just a symptom of the overall problem. I think both men and women don't trust themselves, you know, I think it's a human thing that hopefully we're healing through right now, but I think the inclination is to seek outside before you seek in. So, you know, for women in particular, it might be a little bit exacerbated because, you know, as a head of household, as a wife or a mother, you really are looking at other people consistently to see what their needs are and how you can respond to that. So I think there is a greater opportunity potentially to lose trust when you're dealing with so many other people that rely and depend on you. And as a man, that might be a little bit easier, but you know, this could be shortsighted because I am a female coming from a female perspective that men probably don't have as many opportunities to look outside because they just have the singular, not singular job, but, you know, as a head of household earner, you make the money and come back home from like the nuclear family perspective that exists. But I think for everyone it's like, you know, our whole lives we spend comparing, you know, and doing all those things. And it's really our work to be good on the inside so that we don't do any of these things that we talk about. We don't take pills when we don't need them. We don't, you know, just look for the shortcut when we could go the long way, even if it's harder and stuff like that.

Wade Lightheart: So what is Almost 30 podcasts kind of insight? I'm a young person tuning into your podcast, 18, 20, 25, whatever, you know, kind of moving up certain, get my feet in the world and getting beat down a couple of times, what is quote unquote, the prescription for finding your intuitive self and developing a lifestyle where you both can have your health and, you know, some spiritual perspective or mindfulness, wellbeing, able to get the business, like how do you get to that spot from where someone is? What would you suggest, what does a person do? I'm sitting there going: Hey, I want to be like you guys. I want to have a podcast. I want to be healthy. Right? I want to look good and I want to meditate. Like, how do I get there? What do you guys do? I want to know. Tell us.

Lindsey Simcik: You know, very simply and tactically, it's like creating a routine for yourself that supports that type of growth and an evolution. So, yeah, rituals, I think, especially book-ending your day. So a lot can happen during the day, right? You have your responsibilities, your job, et cetera, but how are you starting your day? How are you ending the day?

Wade Lightheart: Okay. Take us, take us through your day and then like your typical day. And then, and then I'll get Krista to take us through her day. And I'd like to see some comparison here.

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah. I mean, currently, you know, being in quarantine is interesting. What I commit to every morning is movement, mindfulness and some sort of expression and nourishment. That means moving my body in a way that feels really good. I'm no longer forcing myself to do workouts that I hate. So like a walk. That could be a hike. That could be yoga. That could be ecstatic movement, mindfulness, it could be meditation. I usually meditate to like binaural beatsor that could be like a mindful journaling, like kind of the channeling or asking questions of my spirit guides or, you know, my own intuition. And then the nourishment piece is really making sure that I am getting enough water. I love doing like a hot water and lemon. I do love coffee. So I'm making my coffee elixir.
Wade Lightheart: What's your favorite brand?

Lindsey Simcik: So right now I'm really loving Laird Superfood. They have like a premium coffee creamer combo. I really love layered. And then I'm trying to think of what else did I say the fourth one?

Wade Lightheart: I lost you. I interrupted. I was so moved with the coffee comment.

Lindsey Simcik: Expression. That's so good. So expression is really just making sure that I am committing to a creative practice everyday. So whether that's quite literally drawing like a kid, or singing, or whatever that looks like in the day, I just want to make sure that I'm able to do that freely and without it having to be something. And really without having to show anyone, you know, just having it for myself feels really really good.

Krista Williams: Yeah. And I think, you know, it's like talking about, okay, so how does someone get success? Like you, if they want to do a podcast, it's like, it kind of goes against everything we were talking about where we're like, no one should look at everyone else and want what they have, you know? So I think about that too. It's like, you know, what I'm doing is a fit for me, but it might not be a fit for everyone. And for me to be like: Oh yeah, this is amazing and perfect and everyone should have a podcast and everyone should be this isn't true. You know, I hope that everyone seeks like their own health and their own path first, for sure. Because if you try and follow what you believe is someone else's path it's never gonna work, unfortunately. But for the routines of the day I get up at 6, 5:55 actually. And then I'll do 'm loving Joe Dispenza's meditation's. Have you ever done any of that?

Wade Lightheart: Yeah, Joe's great. Yeah. I had a friend that had healed herself from a life threatening illness with Joseph. Yeah, absolutely. Did the testimony at one of his events pull her up like remark, great friend of mine. She's a lovely lady. And so I'm forever in gratitude of Joe's work in that, like, it was a serious serious condition and it's just all gone away.

Krista Williams: His work is so powerful. And so I'll do that right away. I'll do some dream journaling, just to write down and clear my subconscious. I'll pray. And then normally I'll do it in front of the red light. I do red light therapy every morning, which I really like.

Wade Lightheart: Which one do you use - Joovv or use one of those beds everybody do?

Krista Williams: Joovv, but I heard that there's a lot of VMs from it, so I'm kind of bummed out about it.

Wade Lightheart: Right. But how do you feel?

Krista Williams: I feel great. Yeah. And, you know, toning and stuff like that, but yeah. And then, you know, I might have breakfast, I might go on a walk, I might be on my phone, I might not, but really it's like the beginning connection to whatever that is, is probably the most important. And for me, you know, over the years of transforming my life, if you could say is like really meditation has been number one. You know, it's the ability to like observe myself and the ability to see myself outside of like that singular view when you're living your life and you're like, why isn't this working? Or why am I not healthy? Or why am I not all these things? But really, you're never honest with yourself. You know, I used to be like: Oh man, why am I not this? Why am I not that? But really, if I was honest with myself, I'd be like: okay, cause' you're not actually doing the work. You're not actually like prioritizing this. You know what I mean? So there's just such a shift that happens when you meditate that, although it's annoying to hear it all the time, it's just the truth.

Wade Lightheart: Which came first, the meditation or the cultivation of the kind of the balanced perspective? Did the balanced part perspective lead into the meditation or the meditation started make everything fall into place?
Krista Williams: I think for me… Mine was like reading and research on philosophy and on like Taoism and Buddhism. And then meditation really just like took it to the next level of a general understanding of it. So people can go either way, whatever way is going to be helpful for them. Cause' my path isn't anyone else's. So whatever interests them that leads them to feeling more complete.

Wade Lightheart: Is that the same for you?

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah. It's funny, I was living in New York before LA and was not meditating in New York, which is a place where you should definitely be meditating.

Wade Lightheart: How you meditate? I can't even sleep in that city. I just kind of like, there's this pulse that goes through.

Lindsey Simcik: It's quite intense, but very cool for a lot of other reasons.

Wade Lightheart: It's cool for a lot of other reasons, but I don't think it's a great place to just go, you know, develop your spiritual self.

Lindsey Simcik: So I really started meditating and just being more mindful about what was going on up there in my noggin when I moved out to LA and I think nature had such a huge part of that for me. Like I was like: Oh my gosh, like I'm so connected to all of this and to be able to kind of hold that in my mind's eye and in my heart, like in meditation just feels so good. You know, I try to meditate everyday. It doesn't always happen, but I allow it to look different, right? Like it doesn't have to be sitting in silence. It could be to music. It could be a movement meditation. It could be like a yoga moment, right? Like it could look so many different ways. But it's really helped me to settle into who I am, which allows me then to just like learn very freely and without judgment. I think sometimes I'm a thinker I'm like so in my head. So this has really helped me to just kind of come down in my body, remember who I am and intuitively just kind of like seek what I need to learn.

Wade Lightheart: Very good. Now you guys have such a cool podcast and it's so fun and jazzy and it doesn't feel kind of like contrived in this studio audio. You know, like the studio is like, okay, you know, Krista, you're going to take this side and Lindsey, you're going to say this and you're going to create this kind of like, you know what I mean? We're going to bring out the pregnancy test in this episode. That's even more fun getting to the pregnancy test, right? So did that just emerge naturally from your friendship or your natural dialogue or the differences and curiosities or, or how did that come out?

Krista Williams: For sure. You know, it's just who we are. And it wouldn't be natural if it was any other way, you know, to have the same opinions on things or to like be the same person, wouldn't make it interesting. So yeah, you know, our job is to really just be as much as we can who we are, because that's when, you know, the show is at its best.

Wade Lightheart: What would you say is maybe a few of the most interesting topics that have got your interest these days that you're just like: I can't get enough of this subject, this is so cool, I want more, we need to talk more, we need to interview more people? What is it? What do you think is real relevant and raw for you guys these days?

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: I think aliens for me. For sure. My night vision. We're going to do some in watching here in LA. They're just huge.

Wade Lightheart: Do you believe that there is, do you think there's aliens on the planet right now?

Krista Williams: Yeah, for sure. I think they been here for a long time.

Wade Lightheart: Are they influencing our government?

Krista Williams: Yes. 100% sure.

Wade Lightheart: Really? Have you seen an alien?

Krista Williams: No, I wish. You know what? I think I chose it from a soul level to not.

Wade Lightheart: I don't know about you guys, but I got into Zecharia Sitchin work way back. Amazing stuff you want to get into that about the whole Sumerian texts and the development of humanity and where Adam and Eve came from and DNA and rib. It was pretty far out stuff, right? And then of course the biblical references of Elohim, which is the original arraignment version of God. And it's let us make man in our own image because Elohim is plural.

Wade Lightheart: And then through every culture, whether it's the Indian or the Greeks, there's this historical Pantheon of super beings that come back and interact with humans. And so I think there's a strong possibility that aliens have been here. And I think there's a strong possibility that they're influencing. And I hope it's not the David Icke version of aliens, which are controlling the planet, but it kind of looks like it is. And yeah, I don't know where we're going to go with that one, but you know, if we had to do it, hey, you know what? I'll give it a try. I don't want to discriminate. That's the most important thing, everybody deserves a chance.

Krista Williams: We support everyone and aliens.

Wade Lightheart: I love it. Way off topic. Two things we're going to get into. I would like to know your top five go to each of you for biohacking or bio optimization. And then let's talk about your PodcastPro. So who wants to go first?

Krista Williams: I'll go first. So actually, your magnesium, I take magnesium. I always say magnesium is one of my, it's like a very simple, but to keep you regular for your nervous system, I think it's like such an undervalued nutrient and I love your magnesium. I take it every night. I also really like apex a lot. It's like the best. But I'd say those red light therapy is great. Really good water, you know, having high quality, clean water is powerful. Good sleep. Sleep with like a sleep mask, just to make sure that you have like no light coming in. And then last biohacking thing… I have my vibration plate, which I really like where I'll stand on it for like 10 minutes, 15 minutes just to move my limp around.

Wade Lightheart: Which one do you use? Which company do you use?

Krista Williams: I got the cheap one on Amazon. It was like 200. So it's nothing. It works great. I know they have the stand ones, but I just was like, I'll just try with this one, but I really like it. And I think it would be valuable for people, especially when they have desk jobs and day jobs just to like move a little bit.

Wade Lightheart: Oh yeah. I run down to Bulletproof labs and jump on the one down there.

Krista Williams: I do. I'm so close to you. I'm like half a mile away from there.

Wade Lightheart: No, really? Which way are you, are you towards the fairgrounds so the Ferris wheel, are you down to the other way?

Krista Williams: Towards the Ferris wheel. Yeah, I was down the other way, but we moved closer in Santa Monica, but I'm like half a mile away.

Wade Lightheart: We're definitely going to have to meet for coffee or Bulletproof for sure. And trade alien stories.

Lindsey Simcik: Actually Bulletproof's one of mine. I love Bulletproof just getting my like healthy fats, the MCT, the collagen in my coffee. I tend to fast in the morning until about 10:30 or so. So fasting minus my Bulletproof. Also ClearLight sauna. So we have a sauna here in the studio.
Wade Lightheart: What do you like about the ClearLight particularly?

Lindsey Simcik: They're infrared capability in that sauna is really really powerful. I feel like the heat penetrates on a level that I really haven't felt in a sauna before. So it's been super healing for my skin, for aches and for my joints and just like general detoxification. It's also a great place for me to meditate and write. And then I also really love athletic greens, which I drink every morning. It's kind of like a, all-in-one like daily green. I have to say magnesium. Again, we've been, you know, that's a staple every single night. It helps with sleep. It helps my muscles recover, relax helps my digestion. And just like digestion in general is something that I focus on. You know, whether it's your Digestive Enzymes or the magnesium or digestive teas. It's important for me that my gut is super healthy. I notice when it's not, it affects my cognitive function. Even like my emotion, my emotional health. So I just am really fixated on that. And I do have to say sleep. I've been like such a sleep. Like I've been crazy about my sleep lately. So making sure that I, at least for me get eight hours or more. And when I'm tired that I rest.

Wade Lightheart: Do you do that? Do you do the hacks for sleeping?

Lindsey Simcik: I do a sleep mask as well, making sure there's zero light that gets in or disrupts my sleep. I do my juice before bed. I will use like five different essential oils that are good for sleep. And I just really like to feel like I've taken care of myself before I lay my head on my pillow.

Wade Lightheart: My business partner, Matt has, I think he's got about 60 GS sunk into the sleep system, right? Like it gets the temperature down. He's got a Faraday cage, he's got the Delta wave, he's got the Dream on, he's got the Ascensia mattress, he's got the chilly pads. He's got like the Lavella and stuff that he takes before bed and everything he's really, really got it down.

Wade Lightheart: It's a combination of lavender oil and I forget what the other, maybe rosemary or something like that, it's you can take it. I'll make sure you connect in and I'll get that info over to you exactly. But he loves it, because if you take some of these essential oils before sleep, it really opens up your ability to downturn.

Lindsey Simcik: Light therapy. So we've done podcasts about late hygiene or sorry, late hygiene and wearing we use blue blocks, but they're sleep plus glasses. So wearing those like red lens glasses a couple hours before bed is really, really great for it.

Wade Lightheart: You start yawning when you put those things on, you know, it's kind of crazy or it's really wild, right? While you think about what the first thing that I did when I did the Truedark, I think it was TrueDark I did. And I got Swannies from another friend of mine and I was like, put them on. And I was surprised about how it did make me feel tired. And then I thought the next thing is like: well gee, how much stimulation am I actually getting if I just put these glasses on and suddenly I feel tired? So like, you know, we talk about what's normal now. Normal left the building a lot. So I think we're living, I would think you would agree with this, we're living in an age where we've had this explosion of technology and innovation, but we really haven't grown a lot philosophically and we certainly haven't adapted to the new technologically enhanced world. We're catching up in the biohacking world, but I'm afraid that there's a lot of people that are going to be the victims of this evolutionary shift, unfortunately, because of either economics, lack of information, or just lack of willingness to adapt to the new world. And you guys seem to have figured that out. Let's talk about PodcastPro because I know you guys got another project going on. Talk about this PodcastPro, how did it get started? What's it all about? Who's it for?

Krista Williams: So we, you know, started four years ago on our closet floors. We've done everything on our own. And when we started to grow, people would ask about starting their own show. And podcasting has been a dream for us, you know, to fully express who we are just in general has been awesome. So we wanted to put everything that we wish we would have had when we started in the same place. So we have all the information tools, tips, and resources for people to launch their show, to grow their show or monetize their show, that we've used over four years. And just being in the industry, working with amazing industry people to provide more information. So what it does is helps people do those things through a digital course.

Wade Lightheart: That's it? Anything else?

Lindsey Simcik: It's been very rewarding just to, you know, mentor. Especially a women in this space who have a message to share and also want to elevate other people's messages. And so we know how impactful it's been for us and we're just really honored to be able to help other people do it.

Wade Lightheart: You guys, so you offer mentorship as well with this whole podcast thing? Can you talk about a little bit about that? Because that's like massive value.

Lindsey Simcik: Yeah. So we have a full PodcastPro program, which includes idea to launch, the marketing and the monetization courses. And so we include a call with Krista and I to really answer any questions. We're happy to review your cover art or your intro, like really get into the nitty gritty of what's holding a lot of these creators back. They're just like these moments in the process that trip people up and we've been there and so we want to make sure that we're giving people confidence to make some forward movement, to make a decision. It doesn't have to be perfect, but we're there to support. So it's been really cool.

Wade Lightheart: Where do you see yourselves in 5 years, 10 years, or where would you like to look back at of where this has all gone for you guys? What's the vision?

Krista Williams: I think anything I do is just creating, seeking to create more freedom for myself. So freedom for me means building the business enough to support ourselves, our families, our teams, our teams and their families, and change people's lives with our message that are open to hearing it. SoI think, Lindsey and I just both want to create more freedom. More freedom of who we are and our business, outside of the business, all the things. So yeah, whatever that takes us, you know, however that expresses itself in what we do, we're open to it cause' you know, we started 4 years ago, we would have never expected that we would have retreats and tours and merch and all this stuff. So we have to be open to the possibility of things being different. We would have ever imagined. What about you?
Wade Lightheart: For me? Yeah, you know, for me, my business is more of expression of my dharmic path. So most people are familiar with karma. And karma is the collection of the decisions that you've made up to this point in this lifetime and beyond. So I don't believe that I'm a victim of anything other than my own choices. And my circumstances are reflective of my choices, not just in this life, and in some other life. And that's very empowering because I can't make sense of the world as it is, because I won a birth lottery. I was born in North America. And even though it wasn't in a financially advantage or an educational advantage. I still was born in North America where we just have opportunities that a lot of the world doesn't have period. And you know, so I feel really grateful there.

Wade Lightheart: But also there was other things, you know, my sister died at a very early age and I thought, you know, we had the same parents, the same lifestyle and you know, she died at 22 and somehow I was healthy and I was able to kind of go on in this thing. And so I was like: that's not fair either. Right? You know, like, so why is that? So obviously there's some sort of bigger path and I haven't told many people this, but I had a near death experience when I was 22 and did the whole thing and saw the light and the whole nine yards, and went through past lives. I'd never heard about that stuff before I went through this remarkable experience. And from that point, I realized that I had been looking at life like a kindergarten student and that I was going to embrace taking risks.

Wade Lightheart: I was going to do things that wasn't expected. I wasn't worried about the outcome and that ultimately I want it to realize my best self. And when I went to the Mister Universe Vontest, which was a dream of mine that I had for 16 years. I did the contest and this is a long answer, but I think it's important. I did the contest and there were some boys outside that couldn't afford to go to the stadium and I would meet them. They were waiting at the hotel and I would have a little chat with them. And I said to them, the more kids are coming here. Cause' I said: you know, after the contest, I'm going to have a teaching with young, I'm going to take you and I'll go and do a little posing routine or whatever at you guys as chairman. So every day there's more and more kids coming at the hotel.
Wade Lightheart: They're all kind of, I can tell they're kind of excited. And after the contest, true to my word, they were there and they took me and saved up all their money. Took me on this event, like all through the backends streets of Mumbai, India. I ended up this place. There's probably 300 kids in the scorching heat, humid heat, to pile in to get this lessons from this guy, this white guy from Canada that ended up there. And I had, prior to that, I had got into meditation and I became a vegetarian because of that. Not because I'm a vigilante vegan and I got featured in a thing over there and there was this whole publicity thing that happened because I was this vegetarian bodybuilding guy at the Mister Universe that happened to be in India. So there was this series of miraculous events. And I coached those people that day. And I'm actually just saw one of the kids who ended up in a career, in the fitness career. I just saw him last year, I went to India again and we met up, just got married.
Wade Lightheart: And at that moment I recognized that my journey towards becoming Mister Universe or these kinds of fitness kind of X things, that was just a signpost on the way that my real pathway was to educate people about health, about fitness, and then ultimately about their true divine nature, which I believe is your spiritual self. That led to an incredible life, very unusual life. I've had a very strange life, because I'm not get garnered by the same thing. So I would ultimately like to say, when I get done with all this as a couple of things. Number one, I want to redefine the public and government definition of what food is. And I want to create an education process that stimulates and integrates the aspects of human health in a highly technologically advanced world. And then the final piece is I would like to be known as someone who didn't define himself as a physical being as a father or a husband, or a businessman, but was just a spiritual based person that had this life.

Wade Lightheart: And that was the only thing that actually mattered in the whole circuit. So if I can get those three things, I think I'll be a success. If I don't get those things, I think will be a success, because I'm pursuing them and that's all that matters. We'll take it up in the next lifetime if I fail this time. So that's how I feel about it.

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: Powerful. Thank you for sharing that. That's powerful.

Wade Lightheart: Yeah. So can you share everybody? Like you guys been so graceful. I mean just kind of rambling on here all day long. It's so fun.Where can people reach you? How do they find out more about your podcast? Also the PodcastPro program that you're on. I think that's great. I wish I had something like that. I think everybody needs to follow the mentors. Where do they reach you? Where do they find you?

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: Yeah, so you can find us on Instagram at Almost 30 podcast. You can visit our website, We also have a shop of courses and workshops and merch and freebies at And for your PodcastPro that's your Y-O-U-R, I'm @lindseysimcik on Instagram and I @itskrista. Yeah. That's about it. That's about it. We're everywhere. You want to listen to podcasts and yeah, this was so much fun and I'm so glad you're on the West side in Venice. Looking forward to seeing you when quarantine lifts and yeah, we love art. We love our BioOptimizers.

Wade Lightheart: I got a question, just the last question before we go, like if I wear an Almost 30 t-shirt is that going to be kind of cheesy? Cause' people are going to go like: who the hell is he kidding? Or are they going to say: that guy, he's so dope with that.

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: Yeah. Very cool. Very sweet.

Wade Lightheart: What color?

Krista Williams and Lindsey Simcik: Oh, we have three different colors. Black would look good on you. Black would be good.
Wade Lightheart: I look good in pastels, you know? That's kind of my color palette, right? You guys are so fun. Thank you for joining us today on the Awesome Health Podcast. For folks listening, make sure that you check out Krista and Lindsey. They have one of the coolest funnest podcasts ever. It's kind of like a Joe Rogan style almost, which is just fun and interesting to listen to you. And you guys are such great sports, and you're doing such great things. So thanks so much for joining us today. And for everyone out there, that's another Awesome Health Podcast. Do the things that you need to do follow 12 week course. And you know what? Youtube can realize your physical dreams. Thanks so much for joining. Take care.

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