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124: Is Deuterium-Depleted Water the Fountain of Youth? – with Robert Slovak

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He’s the Juan Ponce de Leon of 21st Century Scientists

Just like Juan Ponce de Leon, the European explorer who searched in 1513 for a rumored fountain of youth in Florida, today’s guest has been exploring water for decades and maybe getting close to finding a true fountain of youth. Literally.

This water scientist is not chasing a rumor. His pursuit of new frontiers in water is scientifically based. Using the latest, high-priced technology, Robert Slovak creates a fresh spring of pristine water that science seems to think might provide longevity, increased energy, and terrific health to those who drink this specially-formulated water. 

What type of water, you ask? It would be best if you tuned into this episode to grasp Slovak’s exciting work with water thoroughly. 

Robert Slovak is an International water scientist who is regarded as one of the world’s foremost water experts and is currently working on deuterium depleted water. He has written hundreds of articles and presentations on water technology, water quality, and consumer advice throughout his career. Robert is best known for co-founding Water Factory Systems in the early 1970s with his brother and was among the early developers of Reverse Osmosis technology and its many applications.

Robert has tapped into Soviet-era technology to help bring deuterium-depleted water to consumers, allowing them to reduce their body’s burden of deuterium. He is the chief science officer of Litewater Scientific, a brand of deuterium-depleted water (DDW) that is advancing the full potential to help people in depleting their deuterium levels, achieve optimal health, abundant physical energy/vitality, and life extension. Drinking Litewater can potentially reverse fatigue, increase energy levels, promote brain function, support optimal metabolic levels, offer anti-aging benefits, and limit the harmful effects of metabolic toxins.

In this podcast, we cover:

  • The health crisis Robert experienced that led him to the health and wellness space
  • One of the “three great medicines and health products of all time” that Robert discovered in Brazil
  • What is deuterium, and why do we want less of it in our drinking water?
  • The only way to remove deuterium from water
  • The biological effects of deuterium depletion (positive results for those who drink this water)
  • How much of this water do you need to drink to reap the benefits?

The Most Significant Optimal Health and Anti Aging Strategy of Our Time

Robert tells Wade: “As I learned more about deuterium depletion, I’ve known about it and looked at it for ten years and never thought of doing anything with it. But as a water scientist, it just fascinated me. But all the work was being done in Russia. And I didn’t know anything about Russian scientists. 

Here’s my viewpoint as health science’s focus shifts from free radicals and antioxidants; you and I came from metabolism and mitochondria. We are going down the rabbit hole to figure out how life works the benefits of depleting excess indigenous deuterium. This qualifies as the most significant health and anti-aging strategy of our time.”

Vacuum-Assisted Fractional Distillation Rectification 

Say what?

That’s a mouthful. Vacuum-Assisted Fractional Distillation Rectification is the process of removing deuterium from water. This involves hundreds of stainless steel tubes, a foot in diameter, three stories high, in which you heat water in these tubes. These tubes have something special inside of them – Robert calls it “the secret sauce” that makes this process work. As the molecules rise with the vacuum and the heat, this forces them to rise. There is a prolonged separation of the lighter molecule from the heavier molecule. And the deuterium stays towards the bottom while the Lightwater goes to the top. 

This process is not cheap. You can make one gallon of this water per hour using one of these test tubes. That process costs $50,000. 

However, Robert explains why the consumer’s cost works out to be cheaper than a daily Starbucks habit.   

If you want to not only extend your life but also live a more robust, more energetic existence with the time you do have, be sure to tune in to this episode. Robert Slovak has spent the majority of his life studying water and deuterium, more specifically. His astronautical and mechanical engineering mind may have constructed something truly revolutionary for your health and longevity. 

Check out this episode – you might run through parking lots while out shopping like 76-year-old Robert Slovak does. 

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Read The Episode Transcript:

Wade Lightheart: Good morning, good afternoon. And good evening. It's Wade Lightheart from BiOptimizers with another edition of the Awesome Health Podcast and show we're delighted today because we have a world class expert to join us. Who's going to teach us about deuterium depleted water and some of the evidence over the last 60 years of how health research shows that even normal levels of deuterium in all drinking water and foods pose a health threat to human health, deuterium interferes with cellular energy production, overall metabolism and cell development and division. And today Robert Slovak will be joining us, who is an international water scientist, who is regarded as one of the world's foremost water experts and is currently working on deuterium depleted water, to road his career. He has written hundreds of articles and presentations on water technology, water quality, and consumer advice. Robert is best known for co-founding water factory systems in the early 1970s with his brother and was among the early developers of a reverse osmosis technology and its many applications. We were chatting earlier before the podcast and you've got a fascinating background. You want to share a little bit about maybe a little bit of your history, what you can share about how you ended up getting into the deuterium conversation?

 Robert Slovak: Well, you know, my education was as an astronautical engineer, which is the people who designed missiles and that people call me the rocket scientist for a joke. And This was during the Vietnam war. I was in the PhD program in New York,uat a,uastronautical Institute to the Guggenheim school of aeronautics and astronautics. And the whole class was actually except for the girl was drafted, now because I was doing a top secret project. I couldn't be drafted, but they sent me to a place to work on the Minuteman missile in Anaheim, California. That's why I got here. And I worked on that and while I was in the military industrial complex, I became like, okay, this isn't really for me, you know at one point I was hoping, ultimately had that all not happened that the Vietnam war not happened, I was going for being an astronaut.

 Robert Slovak: Okay. But it never materialized. So worked for the military industrial complex, got bored and, and, and ran into an emerging technology called membrane separation. And membrane separation is the big category for reverse osmosis. Nanofiltration a whole emerging science because reverse osmosis just startled the world because of its capability of desalinating the oceans to make fresh water. You can imagine what a big deal it was. I mean, it was so big a deal. The government said we're actually running the project through the department of interior. And then all these companies joined in all the high technology companies to help. And my brother and I were part of this and we focused on not to sell [Inaudible] but we focused on all the other applications. I mean, we made water for laboratories. We made the first drinking water systems that have the world has under their sinks now.

 Robert Slovak: And you know, we did things for hemodialysis endless. And my favorite thing to talk about is that we created in the early 1981 spot free rinse carwash. Okay.

 Wade Lightheart: That's super cool.

 Robert Slovak: Have you ever, I don't know if you've ever used that. I got all high technology, then I tell them my favorite thing was, was introducing this to the carwash industry, and now it's everywhere. So anyway, that's what brought me and for the next 40 some years, we really taught the world North America and the world about this new technology. And we brought it every country, from you know, Istanbul to Rio de Janeiro. And so we became very well known in the water sciences and so on. And the strange part of the story is after I retired in 1996, my brother and I had sold our company we each went into the world to continue teaching water technology.

 Robert Slovak: I was invited to go to Brazil and when they saw what I could bring for them, and Brazil has all the resources, but none of the water technology, I mean, I ended up making magazines, books, college courses, etc in water technology. And in doing one of the projects I was part of, I became deathly ill in a remote area. I had what you would call a bacterial gastroenteritis, very serious case. It was in and out of the way area in which there wasn't good medical care. Okay. And this is what changed my life and made it. So I end up meeting you ultimately in the health space. Okay. So I am like, I need to get a helicopter airlifted out of here. I need to go to a hospital. I know what this is. It ain't going to happen, Mr. Slovak So and my friends know this and love this story. And I wasn't even thinking of doing this for this purpose. And I didn't think of telling you this story, but a guy in this remote area gives me this exact thing,

 Wade Lightheart: Quinton, that's amazing.

 Robert Slovak: So he gives me this, and I'm going, what do you Marcel? What, what do you really think this is going to do for me? He said, this is our doctor. We don't have a clinic. We don't have a doctor. You're going to have to go with this in the next 24 to 48 hours. And we'll figure out what to do. I go, what do I do with it? What is it? He said, it's made from seawater. I said, what do I do? He said, take one per hour. This is going to make you feel better. Well, I took all six at over a period of six hours. It was gone. I didn't know if I was dead and happy, or I really was cured. Okay. It turned, it turned on yet. I couldn't near death experience. So this changed my life. It changed me from a water expert to someone pursuing health and wellness like you.

 Robert Slovak: And so I ended up bringing this product to North America and actually subsequently the world for this small company that made it. And this first came out in 1897.

 Wade Lightheart: Yeah. It's been around a long time.

 Robert Slovak: Yeah. That's a long time. That's the longer than me. So this was the life changer for me. I consider it one of the three great medicines and health products of all time. And so this launched me into the health and wellness business, and I became the importer. Now this product is imported by a company I'm also part of, I didn't want to be in day to day business. I just wanted to train and so on. And this is handled by a company you probably know of called quick silver scientific.

 Wade Lightheart: Yes. I did some heavy metal testing with them and had my try test, literally two days ago.

 Robert Slovak: This is crazy. Wait. So I'm one of the founding investors of Quicksilver scientific and also deal and handle their very specialized water needs and so on and so on. So it's a nice deal. And I also, my main company is called water and wellness, water, and And we also distribute and sell products like [Inaudible]. So anyway, that changed my life. I was immediately in the health business. And then I decided to, you know, what people in the health business don't know anything about water. That's the first thing I discovered. And so I combined this water and wellness theme, and I've done this since maybe 2007 now.

 Wade Lightheart: Amazing, that's fascinating journey. And it's, it's, it's interesting how many people, regardless of their background, get tapped into the health industry because of some health crisis and precisely they, they discover something or they require something to recover themselves, and then Get, it becomes fascinating. And then you get involved with the next thing, you know, companies spring forth and similar…

 Robert Slovak: That's what happens. 

Wade Lightheart: And all the, almost all of the best companies. I know the founders had some sort of health crisis of their own. I also had to solve that. It's almost an exclusive cliche story…

 Robert Slovak: So did the brains and founder of Quicksilver scientific.

 Wade Lightheart: Yeah, it's amazing. Isn't it, so let's Dive into the deep waters, if you will. And talk about deuterium, what that is, your work with it, and what is it, you know, is that an all water? Because I remember way back when I was in, I believe grade eight, I was learning about deuterium because they had put a nuclear reactor in new Brunswick, Canada, and they were, were cooling the water and they, then they used coils to cool the reactors and they said, well, then it had, the water was deuterium afterwards. And I'm like, what does that mean? And they never really explained it to us very well.

 Robert Slovak: Deuterium in the reactor deuterium, was that.. Okay? Let's, I'm a little afraid to try this, but,what do you see now.

 Wade Lightheart: You have some slides you're going to pull up. So I just see your wonderful face, but I haven't got it. We're going to just switch you over to pull up some slides maybe. Yeah. You just press the green button and share screen. We should be able to get there.

 Robert Slovak: Okay. Share screen. And I see share, you see it.

 Wade Lightheart: Yep. But it's just a, we just gotta center It, hit the play button and I think we'll be good.

 Robert Slovak: So I'm going to tell you what I'm going to come back to the formal play, but I want to go to this slide. Okay. Can you see it? Good enough. Do you think the audience sees it good Enough?

 Wade Lightheart: I believe they can.

 Robert Slovak: So I want you, I am. I cannot resist teaching science. Okay. Bring it on. I know, I know what's happened to the American science education. It's fundamentally non-existent okay. I mean, we won't talk about that conspiracy theory, but I mean, just people just don't know, but for those who may not know what, this is a picture of, this is the periodic table of the elements. And these, even though there's more than 92, there are 92 natural ones that let's say were made by God in the big bang and after, but these make up every thing in the universe understand every, every person, every dog, every star, every asteroid, every hamburger from McDonald's, there's nothing that's made, not of these things. It's just the combination. That's it's beyond the brilliant, only a God could think. Okay. So this first lightest one, which is hydrogen, we think of hydrogen as well.

 Robert Slovak: It's an at the smallest simplest Adam. And if you put two of those atoms together, you get hydrogen gas H2 bingo, you put it in a balloon, it's the lightest element. And it goes up in the air, but most people don't realize there's more than one form of hydrogen, nature did not make this simple. In fact, most of the elements have more than one form and we call those forms, isotopes of the elements. Okay. And, you know, isotopes are commonly used in medicine and so on and so on because the different isotopes of each element have special characteristics. And they use them in almost every industry and [Inaudible] thing, etc. But hydrogen has three isotopes. We're only going to talk about two of them, but I'm going to name them. The simple one, everybody thinks is just hydrogen is really by scientists called protium.

 Robert Slovak: Okay. And we really, even though it's a P, we use the symbol H for this, that consists of just one proton and one electron, but somewhere in the big bang, a proton and the neutron got together and it took over an electron. And we call that heavy hydrogen because it acts like hydrogen in most cases, but it's twice as heavy as the protium hydrogen and it's called deuterium. And it was discovered in 1931. When they realized there was heavy hydrogen scientists to knew the imp there was like a, you know a sound of cheering by scientists, because those who knew its simplifications said, Holy macro, this will change the world because with a proton neutron and electron, they knew they could build what's called a nuclear reactor, because that heaviness slows down the fusion reaction in nuclear reactors. It was the secret ingredient. And when that hydrogen with deuterium in it joins like other hydrogen with an oxygen atom, you make water. So the heavy hydrogen can join actually with even a light hydrogen and with an oxygen atom and make what we call heavy water and that heavy water, everyone went crazy in the 1930s to make heavy water. That's all they thought about.

 Wade Lightheart: Why they want to make heavy water.

 Robert Slovak: I'm going to tell you because of this reason, they knew it could slow down. Magically slowed down neutrons to make the fusion reaction in a reactor. And once you can build a reactor, and this was Heisenberg the genius quantum physicist of Germany, he knew along with Einstein who was living in the United States at the time they knew they could make something called an atomic bomb and things were getting rough around the edges in the world at that time. And everybody's mouth was watering to make the ultimate weapon. And it was a race. In fact, if you really want an entertaining evening with a friend, go on Netflix and look up the heavy water war. And it's a phenomenally made film of the, exactly this event and how, what it led to.

 Wade Lightheart: That's amazing. When I was first in university, my first paper, I had to write on the history of physical sciences and we dove into a Robert Oppenheimer and the Manhattan project, all that sort of stuff. And how it was a fascinating topic. I think I got an F plus on my, but I thought it was a great paper and I was really fascinated with the subject, but I was like, welcome to the school of undergraduate.

 Speaker 1: You got it. Well, well, let me tell you that my, you know, first of all, my mother was an English professor. I thought I wrote great papers in high school and was acknowledged for it. But my first English paper at New York university, I got a D minus a little better than you.

 Wade Lightheart: I never have floss. I don't even know what that was.

 Speaker 1: Anyway. So Germany took the lead in making enough heavy water to make her reactor, to make a bomb. But everybody realized the gravity of it. And in the end, America won the war, made the bombs, delivered them to Japan and the rest is history. But there was such, obviously after the war, when people realized what atomic bombs could do, they wanted to make more heavy water. So everybody wanted deuterium in the water. Nobody thought, well, what does this do? They had didn't know until they didn't know until the 1950s that if you take water, Oh, so how much deuterium so that this deuterium, which let's call the molecule, there's by the way, the simple hydrogen and the deuterium hydrogen one's twice as heavy. And here's, by the way, the three molecules that are in every drop in that maybe not a big drop, but every bottle of water, every body of water on planet earth.

 Speaker 1: So you have a lightwater molecule. That's just two protium hydrogens, regular hydrogens and oxygen. Then you have H heavy water, which is HDO meaning one hydrogen, one, deuterium, hydrogen, and oxygen. And then there's very little of it, but there's like kind of super heavy water. We don't even mentioned that that's two deuterium, hydrogen, and oxygen. And this was, everybody wanted these two heavy waters, but there's six drops of deuterium water made with these two molecules that say heavy water. I'm pointing to them like you see it, but there's six drops of that in every liter of water on the planet, give or take a few different exceptions. And one of the problems it's twice as concentrated. Maybe they think three times as concentrated on Mars, Mars, water is mostly frozen and they think it's got two or three times more deuterium, which means absolutely cannot be consumed.

 Wade Lightheart: Why does Mars have so much deuterium

 New Speaker: Complex it, no, one's sure what delivered deuterium to the planets. Okay. So that's big mystery. And then, then there are media relaunch, trickle things that concentrate deuterium got it. But a big deal to know is if we took, this is what influenced me and shocked me more than perhaps anything in my water career. When I realized, remember this heavy water was still water. If we took those six drops Wade out of water, each liter of water enough to make a cup of water, two cups, one for you. And one, for me, It would taste like water, look like water. You would cook like water. Everything would be just like regular water, but you and I had, we drank those cups while we have been talking, we would both be dead by now.

 Wade Lightheart: Wow.

 Robert Slovak: That's struck me more than anything in my water career that I spent my whole life using technology to remove contaminants from water, never knowing or realizing that perhaps the most egregious contaminant in water was a form of water itself. I mean, you can just think about this for a minute.

 Wade Lightheart: The mind-boggling.

 Robert Slovak: Truly.

 Wade Lightheart: Yeah, it's totally a mind-blower. Yeah. You know, people say, Hey, your mind has been blown. That's a mind blowing statistic.

 Robert Slovak: It's a mind blowing statistic.

 Wade Lightheart: There must be a threshold. Then there is where we're toxicity becomes an issue or damage to the tissue. Coz what does, what does this do? How would this cup of deteriorate or heavy water kill you? And then how, of course the next question is, well, how much of a little bit is going to kill me? Right?

 Robert Slovak: Sure. And we're going to get to all of those answers, but the reason it kills you and we'll answer this in several ways is that there is no other element that has an isotope that's twice as heavy as the main form of the element. Okay. It's shocking that, you know, other isotopes of other elements may be 5% heavier because they have a neutron, but they're much bigger to begin with. But hydrogen, so light to begin with you throw in a nutrient, you just doubled its weight. And I, I actually, it's kind of silly, but I explained to audiences, so they get the severity of it. I tell them, Hey, if you woke up tomorrow and you were five or 10% heavier, you'd be like really angry. But if you were twice as heavy, it'd be suicide.

 Robert Slovak: So that's how serious this is in the world of chemistry and biology because this heavy water can replace. Or the deuterium in this heavy water can replace hydrogen in almost any reaction in the body. Remember the considered them chemically equivalent in their reactions. But the thing is twice as heavy, it's like going into where you work out. And I take the barbells and I just go, Hey, tomorrow morning, we're going to make every bar bill twice as heavy boy, are you going to have some problems the next day with the guys working out? And that's what your body is going through. It's, it's having to heavy lift this Atom of deuterium because it's part of the water and it's… Think about the reactions. I mean, you know, the hormone reactions, the enzyme reactions, everything is going to change. I mean, there's a hundred thousand different reactions, right? All the amino acids that are connected to the genome, all of those amino acids have hydrogen in them. Those hydrogen could become, if you got too much hydrogen, they could become all deuterium. And if we drank that pure deuterium water, they would exchange so fast that no, even at 25% deuterium water in a volume, 25%, no animal can live longer than five days. No plant seed can germinate. No plant can continue living from deuterium. I mean, did you ever think this when you were preparing?

 Wade Lightheart: No, not at all. It's lot about water and I've never heard that shared in any conversation. And I've probably, I don't know, 200 different types of water. Probably. It's a fascinating subject. It's the great mystery right.

 Speaker 1: I'm going to share a tip for all you and your, your, your audience. If you are having a social gathering with a loved one, and you get a glass of water or a drink, you know, vodka with water or scotch and water, et cetera. And the ice cubes are sitting on the bottom, you know, that they have it in for you because only deuterium ice cubes sink to the bottom.

 Wade Lightheart: Oh, so this is kind of like a secret service strategy. If the ice cubes are in the bottle.

 Speaker 1: Exactly. James Bond.

 Wade Lightheart: It's funny. I always ordered my drinks with no ice.

 Speaker 1: Yeah. You good, man. Because you know, you probably wouldn't. Nobody would even notice it actually just forced drink away. So,uanyway, I say those things to really exaggerate how serious this is, and we don't know a lot about the limit, but it appears that the body has either evolutionary wise gotten used to deuterium, even though it dramatically changed over history. For instance, 11,900 years ago, the ice age ended and all the ice and the glaciers that had formed were melting. And they started releasing an excessive amount of deuterium because deuterium water freezes at like two degrees higher than regular water. So it's the first to stay frozen. But when it comes everything, unfreezes, it just blasted it into the, everything the icebergs went, the oceans increased,uyou know, all the rain increased. The rain went up and precipitated into the lakes and rivers, It worldwide increased the deuterium. No one sure. But maybe this is part of the health crisis in the world. Okay. That we didn't quite evolve to handle this level of deuterium. And this level let's remind everybody again is six drops and I'm not, there's so much technicality to this. This is I'm like giving them 99% the truth, but it would take hours to go through this. So just

 Wade Lightheart: We're trying to get the illustrative components.

 Speaker 1: Drops per liter is no much deuterium water is in most water. In mountainous areas. It can be as low, it can be like as low as four and a half or five drops. So we now we'll talk and change the science terminology. We're going to call the drops. We're going to say, it's not six drops per liter because we're going to use more information. It's 150 parts per million. Okay.

 Wade Lightheart: Which would be the equivalent of six drops.

 Speaker 1: Which would be the equivalent of six drops. So 150 parts per million of deuterium in water. So you don't even have to say how much, just 150 parts per million gives you the amount and the volume it's in. So 150 parts per million. Now that's not a lot. And nobody even thought about it. Everybody was wanting to make atomic bombs. They said, I don't, nobody even bothered, but it was the Russians who didn't, weren't part of making the atomic bomb. They were lagged way behind. And they, their scientists, which I consider among the most brilliant in the world, they said, I wonder what this deuterium does in biology.

 Wade Lightheart: Isn't it. The better, the question you ask will lead you in a completely different direction. Not everybody has the courage to ask the obvious.

 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And they did. And they're the ones who really determined, Wade that when you have a high concentration of deuterium more than is in regular water life, can't survive it. And that just said, Oh my God. And then they wanted to know, well, what if we make it five drops? What if we make it four drops? What have been, you know, let me rephrase it. Let's 150 parts per million. There's most of the water on the world, some mountainous areas have 140 or 135. And, and, and, and really there's nothing less. And we can apply that same thing because everything does have, you know, every organic molecule basically has some hydrogen in it, all our foods have it, etc. So we can apply how much deuterium hydrogen is in those things. So foods are part of the deuterium, but because you're mostly water. And because that's the largest thing that you intake, that's where most of the deuterium comes from. So the German, not German, the Russian gerontologist, it started like this. And on our book on our website, drink We have a free book that people can download that tells this story. And I'm just going to give you the highlights of it. Gerontologists in Siberia, couldn't figure out why a particular group, not a race, but a group of people in Siberia and mountains had many, many, many, many times the number of people who lived over 100 years old centenarians. And they said, we've got to go there. This is what we do. We got to find out, you know, what's their food in their social system, their religious practices, you know, but whatever, how they have kids and so on and nothing panned out, nothing was so different than the rest of the population to make it seem that what to account for the number of centenarians. And after almost 10 years, someone said, cause we were getting the world was getting more familiar with isotope, topic chemistry. They said, did you guys do an isotopic analysis of the water that they use? I mean, they're mostly water. So that has a big effect. No, no. I mean the fact that nobody ever did this before, well, let's do it. And they had 130 parts per million of deuterium. And this changed everything and blew everybody's mind that just by reducing it from one 50 to one 30 people not only had so many centenarians, but they lived and I'm not going to tell you here, you can read incredibly long lives.

 Wade Lightheart: That's only a 16, just over 16% difference made. But then again, if your average age is 80 years old and you, you take a 16% addition, bingo, you're over a hundred years old.

 Speaker 1: You're over a hundred, but they went well over a hundred and it was not unusual for women to have children in their sixties. I will just tell you that. Okay. So this started, this started the Russian scientists on the quest for what, what are the biological effects of deuterium? How do we get everybody in the world was concentrating the deuterium, right? Coz they wanted to build reactors and atomic bombs. But these guys said, how do we get the deuterium out of the water? And that's one of your questions and it should be answered. I can only tell you it's very hard, very expensive. And there's only three countries in the world that make it.

 Wade Lightheart: It's funny because I'm a contrarian by nature. And I always say, well, look at what everybody else is doing and do the opposite. You have a higher success chance of being successful. So everybody's chasing deuterium and you're like, let's go the opposite way.

 Robert Slovak: And what's interesting is that they did and still have more research by far than anyone, the Russian scientists. And they did not divulge this for quite a long time and make the world realize this. And, you know, the country was kind of off on its own for much of our lifetime. So, you know, I'm not sure the real reason, but the world didn't hear about this for quite a long time. And this slide is just a quick thing that I can point out that the first 58 to 61, the first correlation to growth and longevity was associated with getting rid of deuterium. And this was the Russians who figured this out and the Russians and the Hungarians and the Romanians took this whole science and ran with it better than anybody else. And then a very famous person, Gabor Somalia of Hungary. You can see in 2001 he publishes a major word called the biological effects of deuterium depletion, and people are starting to get it. I don't know if you know, or you heard or know of the fact that about two weeks ago we had a deuterium depletion summit that for a whole day. And you should have been told about it. And I apologize for that, but we brought the world experts together for an entire day and they each, it was very technical. You would have been thrilled by it. And I say this because the last gentlemen who is perhaps like the most deserving of a Nobel prize in deuterium depletion, he figured out why does deuterium hurt us? And it especially hurts the mitochondria. And it's more, It's actually more than that. And I'm going to go back to my first slide and I want everybody to read this. First, I do want to just show this slide, which is a medical disclaimer. You can go through it because I will say, or maybe accidentally say a few things I might not right. The contents of this presentation are for informational purposes and not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider. With any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. So many People in the world are now using, and I will just say it and ended deuterium, depleted water in a medic, a very serious medical way. Okay. So here's how I see it. This was my conclusion. As I learned more about deuterium depletion, I've known about it and looked at it for 10 years and never thought of doing anything with it. But as a water scientist, it just fascinated me. And, but all the work was over in Russia. And I didn't know anything about Russians, a scientist, but I here's my viewpoint as the focus of health science shifts from free radicals and antioxidants, the world, you and I kind of came from to metabolism and mitochondria. We're getting, we're going much more down the rabbit hole in the direction of figuring out how, how, how, how life works, the benefits of depleting excess indogenous deuterium qualifies as the most significant optimal health and anti strategy of our time.

 Speaker 1: This is my belief. Based upon what I have learned. So,uI'm going to just show you this because you're, you're a techie guy. I just want to show you in the big bang that let's say, we're all gonna agree the universe started the first two things that were created were a neutron and proton, and about a picosecond later, you already had deuterium. Okay. So it was ubiquitous, fascinating Wade that deuterium, the proton and neutron had the temperature not cooled too quickly in the big bang. We're talking about microseconds here had it not cooled. All of that deuterium would have become helium and this would have never existed. It was like a mistake somehow in creation. And here, I think because I'm forever trying to teach an audience science. I want you to all know that the mass of the entire universe, 74% of it is hydrogen, 24% of it is helium. And all the other 90 elements that make up everything we know is only 2%

 Wade Lightheart: Dang old, 2%. Right?

 Speaker 1: So we're coming down to, so this gentlemen, I'm coming back to this slide Dr. Abdullah Olgun really stole the show and he is from Istanbul. Okay. And no one ever of them, but Dr. Abdullah Olgun figured out why deuterium destroys mitochondria. And we're going to see a little bit of that. So six drops of heavy water in every liter of water. And we think only, but it has a devastating effect on our health. And it didn't through all life have six drops. It may have had three drops or two drops. At one point in beginning of life. We don't know There is one anomaly that's so serious, it begs to be answered. And that is the lowest deuterium, natural water and form of water on the planet is in Antarctica.

 Speaker 5: Wow.

 Robert Slovak: Most Of Antarctica snow in ice, if we melted it down would be 89 parts per million. Okay. You're looking at, is it,

 Wade Lightheart: Is that because it froze at a time far into the past, or they know they into, they know why that is.

 Robert Slovak: They don't know. Okay and I'm, you know, it is the most, perhaps the most secretive place on the earth. Now you just can't go there without major qualifications and research and so on. But I know from people who've done research there, that people who go to the same cafeteria and mess hall and all of that together, common conversations revolve around their improvement in health. Interesting. While they're there while they're there. And, but people go there for, you know, one, two, three years, you know, I mean, you can get, I would say that the, the, the health benefits can show up in a week in deuterium depletion in the area of depression and behavioral pathologies. Okay. So these are some of the experiments Oh, I shouldn't have gone there that that showed how long animals and plants live. And, and it's a little too technical, but I did want you to see this slide and your audience slide that this depicts the ice age, which melted and released a lot of the deuterium. So the Russians discovered the, and, and the Russians and the Romanians were the most advanced in depleting deuterium from water. And they use the process. There's no common,utechnology for doing it. I mean, just elation itself. Won't do it reverse osmosis. Won't even touch it. The ionization or ion exchange. Doesn't do it. The only thing that practically makes it is something called Vacuum Assisted fractional distillation, rectification. Okay. It's a mouthful.

 New Speaker: Can you say that one more time? So we can make sure that we get that on the .

 Robert Slovak: Vacuum assisted fractional distillation rectification.

 Wade Lightheart: Okay. What is that?

 Robert Slovak: It is something that you might as well see since we're on the topic. It is hundreds of stainless steel tubes, a foot in diameter in three stories high, in which you heat water in these tubes. And these tubes have very special things inside them that are the secret sauce. And as the molecules rise up with the benefit of a vacuum and the heat, forcing them to rise, there is just a very, very, very slow separation of the lighter molecule from the heavier molecule. And the deuterium stays kind of on the bottom. And the lightwater goes to the top and it takes, it takes maybe, maybe you can make one gallon per hour with this with one of these tubes that costs, you know, $50,000.

 Wade Lightheart: Wow.

 Robert Slovak: That's why it's expensive. So we actually make just to break things up a little, we, as, you know, regular waters, 150, and we make in Russia, two waters, you can see, we make a 10 part per million water. This is the lowest in the world. And we also make the lowest lowest in the world of five part per million. One is in one is the workhorse. And one is in a glass bottle, only one half liter. And it's a bit on the pricey side.

 Wade Lightheart: What's a bottle like that go for.

 Robert Slovak: So this is about eight liters is a hunt with a subscription. And we only do subscriptions is about 100 and S well, not about it's $160 per eight liters. Now what's important is that people make other companies, these three other companies make different amounts. No one makes it this low. We do this because you don't consume this directly. You dilute it. Okay, because you dilute it and you don't want to be drinking this low. We don't have to ship so much. So to get the water that this Iberians got 130 parts per million, and if somebody is young and in great health and so on, we might suggest that 130 parts per million new drink, this would dilute this six times. So you would add six bottles to this bottle and end up with seven bottles. So it's cost isn't as much as it one would think it's probably at six bottles. It's probably less than a visit to Starbucks a day.

 Wade Lightheart: I got it, quick question that comes up is how do you measure the amount of deuterium that might be in the water that someone currently is drinking

 Robert Slovak: With that machine. I'm really glad I brought some slides because this is great. So this is a machine that is called a deuterium analyzer, and they, they cost about 150 to $175,000. And we can measure any water sample, but more importantly, we have this just serve our customers to measure their saliva, to see how well they are doing, because of all the sources of deuterium you have. And this is what ketogenic diet is all about. It's going to be basically battling carbs against fats, right? That carbs are typically high in deuterium and fats are low in deuterium. I see,

 Wade Lightheart: Is that because of the carbohydrates tend to be more water rich than fat molecules, or is it just because of the storage mechanism from plants.

 Robert Slovak: The storage mechanism of the plant that produced it? Plants? No. In fact, probably all species know over the long period of evolution. Something's not right about having too much deuterium around. Okay. Okay. It messes with some stuff. So a plant has evolved to keep deuterium out of its leaves and shuttle it to the root. So in the case of a sweet potato, if you're on deuterium depletion, you probably don't want the sweet potato because it's taking all the sugar that it created. Okay. And shoving it in the sweet potato. So that's an issue. So the interesting and people might be interested to know that like a coconut coconut water is actually has more deuterium than regular water. Interesting. Okay. A lot of people get disappointed upon about that. It has about not 150, but 156 roughly, but a little bit. It's a lot, a little bits a lot. And I am told that that is why monkeys, shun, coconut water, and go for the meat and the fat in the coconut itself. Interesting. Okay. So after a person has been on deuterium depletion program, I would suggest, let's say

 Speaker 1: Two to three months. We suggest they have their saliva tested by us. We send them a kit from our own company, but we call that deuterium And we will, we will test anyone's water supply if they think they have some magic. Many people think the water at my uncle's house in the mountains of Idaho, it has to be deuterium depleted. It's so good. Okay. We get that. And rarely is it deuterium deeply, just, you know, and but interestingly at the same time, and I will say that this, this device, this deuterium analyzer that we own, we have benefited from our relationship with Quicksilver scientific because they have such an advanced science staff and laboratories that we don't need for a daily business, because we're just really water brokers. They maintain and take care of this machine and do all the testing under their certified lab you know, status.

 Speaker 1: So they do all the testing and the guys are all PhDs and so-and-so, we send a kid out. This kid comes back, you suck up your saliva into a little special plastic device, throw it in the mail, send it in. It goes to here, they test your saliva. And then we see, Hey, you know, you're drinking too much beer or you're drinking too much coconut water, et cetera. So fats, Akido, genic diet is very helpful for this. Obviously the lowest food in deuterium. I mean, common food happens to be large at about,u110 parts per million. Now here's another interesting fact when you metabolize a fat like lard or grass fed butter, and why do I say grass fed butter? I say grass fed butter because rainwater that is feeding the grass. The cows are reading and the grass itself have less deuterium than the animal that is being fed grain because grains are higher in deuterium. Okay. I mean, this is there. There's, there's no handling this subject lightly. This is like, you know, this is the Cub Scouts turning into the Navy seals. Okay. Right. This is a complex topic. There's no question about it. There's no simple stuff here. So grass, grass fed butter, grass, fed meats, anything grass fed you want, cause grass is lower in deuterium than grains, which is the alternative. So, and that goes for your own grains. You know, you really don't want, you want to stop eating like cereals that are going to be higher in deuterium. And there's things that you can compensate for. When I say, look for the ketogenic diet, et cetera, et cetera. I'm saying it's to make this as economical in the experience as possible because changing her diet is maybe a little inconvenient, but it's cheap compared to another way to bypass it. And that's the drink? More deuterium depleted water, but that's much more expensive. So I break the rule all the time. I drink water that's and I did this more for my own experimentation. I drink water. That's 80 parts per million. Okay. That's mixing one of these with one of these of regular water. You just mix this with favorite water. I happen to use our Oh, water from our Aqua truth system.

 Wade Lightheart: Right, one-to-one.
 Speaker 1: One-To-One 80 parts per million. I, my body is about 105 parts per million deuterium. [Inaudible] Oh, wait. You mean the average person that was…

 Wade Lightheart: [Inaudible] that you're running tests on for say that's

 Speaker 1: Oh, it it's, it's really all over the place because of how long they've done it. Some are doing it for serious health reasons. Okay. So they're taking 80 somebody, a young guy that's 30 and in great health, he's doing 130 parts per million, not 80. Okay. So if you're the average person, we basically say a good place to start is 115 parts per million. And I'm going to explain why 115 parts per million, because a magic threshold in general happens to be, once you get below one 20, a whole cascade of metabolic and mitochondrial benefits, unfold, amazing amount of physical energy.

 Wade Lightheart: Yeah. I wouldn't doubt that. That's amazing. Yeah, of course, because if this is interrupting ATP production and mitochondria energy

 Speaker 1: Well its Saving, but this is not interrupting it, this is allowing it to continue.

 Wade Lightheart: That's what I mean. That's what I mean.

 Speaker 1: Yes. Interrupting the decline. Correct. So, and I don't know if you've ever seen the curve, Wade, but pretty much mitochondria increase until about you're 25 and then it's straight line loss of mitochondria until the time you die. Correct. Very precise. And this is blowing that curve out. So for me, I, sometimes people say like I have I'm 76 that I have like an embarrassing amount of energy. Okay. And, and, and it's just kind of, you know, sometimes I feel silly. I don't mind running in a parking lot to get to the front door of the store. Okay. It's like, and many people report this. I have to spill energy. I always, I always park in the furthest parking place now. And as kind of an acknowledgement of, I have so much energy, I'm just going to use it. I'll get a little exercise in and Hey, if people laugh at this 76 year old guy running in the Costco parking lot, Soviet I'll survive,

 Wade Lightheart: They should be asking you, how is it that you're running 76 through parking lot I supposed, which would probably the most common reaction. That's a ma that, that is just remarkable. So what you above all, I mean, want to ask, well, what does this do toperform physical sports, athletic performance?

 Robert Slovak: Yes. I will tell you, it appears to me, we really don't know most of the research in this is not being shared. And my guess is though, I don't know for sure this is going to change sports forever. Every record is going to be broken now. And I'm thinking really more where the mitochondria have to do energy. I'm talking long distance racing, a long distance running and, you know, maybe the 220 or 440 race things where you're really all out all the time. I have no idea nor have I ever heard what this does for a weightlifter unknown to our world. So maybe your then run some tests without question. So I do know there is an entity that will go on named that has applied this to football players. And what kind of shock them was almost everything about being a quarterback was improved from accuracy to the thinking in a situation. Okay. It was, I mean, it's such a territory that's about to be unveiled. And then the, the, the depression part, I mean, it makes you happier person. So that is a remarkable thing. I mean, I think this will change the behavioral sciences and how we treat people in psychiatric care and so on dramatically, because we just didn't realize the revelation of deuterium in this. So,uI'm trying to think of what…

 Wade Lightheart: Well, let's, I think we're getting close to the hour and I want to be mindful of time. Let's, let's, let's talk about what you might suggest. Someone says, Robert, I love what you're talking about. This number one, I want to learn more. Number two, I want to get tested. And number three, I want to try this and run an experiment for however long you suggest to say, Hey, this is a sufficient amount of time to get to that kind of that point where we can get under 120, 115, right. And, and see the effects. And maybe you could suggest some potential timelines, what would be reasonable? How would we get try this? I'm very curious and I'm ready to do the experiment.

 Robert Slovak: So, so, so, okay. So let's separate this, let's partition, this, we're going to talk about regular healthy people, kind of like you and me, and there's yet a whole another application that we really can't freely talk about.

 Wade Lightheart: Correct. We understand the [inaudible]

 Robert Slovak: For those of you privately. Okay. And, and recommend things and other things to read and books to buy, to see what's going on. That is the most profound change for us when we see things get fixed. Okay. But for all these other enjoyments, I mean, which are, you know from energy to almost every aspect of having better performing mitochondria and, you know, as well as I, that the new direction of nutraceuticals is all in, you know, NAD plus and PQQ and AMPK all these mitochondrial support…

 Wade Lightheart: Yes. Everything, anything that supports the production vendor, coz every there's an energy crisis going on in the world. Everyone's like, I need more energy, our field quote, unquote depressed, which oftentimes correlates with the lack of energy, which obviously affects how we feel.

 Robert Slovak: Here's a very interesting thing. You and I both know that our world is filled with a lot of fake news. Okay, indeed. Here is. I found this, this is a piece of fake news. I want everyone to be aware of. And I think, you know, that one of the greatest proponents of fake news and censorship happens to be Wikipedia. Wikipedia has destroyed natural medicine to, to shreds. Okay. I mean, they just laugh at everything from natural paths to homeopaths and so on, and they didn't skip deuterium depleted water because the only, and we really have a chance to, to change this because we have real data and it's probably going to happen. But this Dr. Harriet whole who's the skep doc. I don't know if you've ever seen her, but she pretty much toes the line of big pharma. Okay. Right. And, and, and she has a critical thing here. And, and it's kind of funny. She reported that the overwhelming majority of DDW studies does not involve humans. Totally ridiculous. There's hundreds of studies that involve humans. Okay. And they may have done thousands studies in the fifties on mice and so on, but there's just, so then an abundance of this just like there is an hydrogen, so, and she says she concluded, I don't see any good science-based evidence that would make me fear deuterium, poor girl. I'll stick to tap water. Thank you. Yes. We would just like you to continue with, so anyway, fake news is in the world and Wikipedia once again is the proponent of it. And, and frankly, I get a lot of benefit from Wikipedia too. Don't get me wrong. Right. But they haven't been kind to our industry. Okay. So veer a normal person. We suggest that you start out with 115 parts per million, and that is a dilution that we call one to three, one, any volume of the deuterium depleted water. And you add three times that amount to it. So this is a two liter bottle, our workhorse. So you're going to add six liters to it. Got it. And that's going to make you enough water probably for someone like you, probably the, the packet of this, it comes in four bottles, I would say for a person's month supply, our standard subscription is two packets. Okay.

 Speaker 1: And I believe that would cost, our standard price for that two packets in a month is $320. And I believe there is some initial benefit that our people have given your clients. Okay.

 Wade Lightheart: Okay. Great. Well, we will put them in the show notes.

 Robert Slovak: I'm sorry that I don't know, I'm too involved in the science to think about it. So,uyou use this for as much of things that involve water as you can. You need no more Starbucks. You have to make your own coffee, your own tea, your own drinking, water beverages that you're used to. Now. Here's where I fall the down. Cause I'm about as,uI I'm about as incompetent in the kitchen as anyone could possibly be. And I buy macadamia milk. Right. I would like to tell your audience, if you make, can make your own macadamia milk with your deuterium depleted water, God bless you and you should do it. I cannot. So I just have to suck it up and take more deuterium, depleted water compensate for that. I do not have not given up my wine.

 Wade Lightheart: One second, one second. I just had an interruption here.

 Robert Slovak: I'm not, I was just about the two. Like I still drink wine. Okay. Not in a great amount, maybe a full glass in an evening or every two days I compensate. I know that wine has the same amount of deuterium as water. Okay. Maybe a little less due to the fermentation process, but pretty much the same. I compensate that by taking an espresso glass of this water, it's very loosey goosey. I mean, you don't have to be measuring.

 Wade Lightheart: With it, or just to take a show.

 Robert Slovak: It doesn't matter two hours later the next day, it doesn't matter. You're all just pouring this water with deuterium in it, into this vessel. And it's averaging out. So If you don't have to boil vegetables in this, you don't have to steam with this. You don't have to do anything. Just the things you're Downing, you know, your main drinking, water, food preparation in which it's, water's immediate major ingredient, like a soup, okay. Should be your water or a broth or bone broth, something like this. Like, you know, when I buy bone broth, I will dilute it with some of this water because the bone broth is you can't change it. Right. You drink as is. But if you were making it from scratch, you'd want to use your 115 parts per million deuterium depleted water. Then after two to three months, You should request a test. I really, unless somebody has a special reason, there is not a good reason to test yourself before. I can tell you if we tested your entire audience and I don't know, a single one of them, you would all come out Between 148 and 152. Okay. And I'm not sure it's, you know, I say, I'd like to say to your audience, save the money.

 Wade Lightheart: How much is the test? How much is….

 Robert Slovak: The test is? I mean, we have specials when you're a customer, but the standard retail price of the test is like $199. And it's something you should probably do in two to three months and then maybe six months. And once you nailed it down your habits and so on, and you're going to continue this for life. This isn't a temporary thing. I mean, if you, it is a commitment, if you really want to enjoy these benefits, you have to keep the deuterium, your indogenous deuterium low, meaning below 120. If you can keep it below 120, you'll have a different life. And if you don't, you know, have a different life. So maybe once a year is good to do a test, something like that, it's inconsequential, but I wouldn't do it beforehand unless you are living in Siberia or something. And you might have low TDS water or low deuterium water. Interestingly at Quicksilver scientific at the facility because the water comes from the Colorado mountains that water coming into their facility is 137 parts per million of deuterium. Interesting. So they have a great benefit. And guess what, everybody tests that who works there 137 parts per million, isn't that fascinating?

 Wade Lightheart: That's fascinating. Wow. That's well,

 Robert Slovak: We covered a lot.

 Wade Lightheart: We certainly covered a lot. You've really gone deep into this. And I think as soon as we get done this, I'm going to figure out how I can do a test. I'm going to actually do, I'll do the test first. And then I'll just as your position.

 Robert Slovak: I mean, as like kind of a celebrity person, you should why not.

 Wade Lightheart: And then, and then I'll, I'll, I'll do the test and then we'll get you back. And, and in a few months in, and we can just kind of break down a little bit more, cause I know you're holding back a lot of information just to be concise,

 Robert Slovak: No to be safe

 Wade Lightheart: And to be safe as well as we know we're living in interesting times.

 Robert Slovak: Yeah, I have some very incredible stories to tell you at some time in the future,

 Wade Lightheart: Robert can you share with us maybe any information of how to follow you, how to learn more about this, where the research is and

 Robert Slovak: Okay. So we have everything we have every study we have w we are kind of the information resource on deuterium depletion in English speaking countries. So go on our website, There's just, it's every day it's being filled with new things and studies and people who are very interested should contact us directly. They may contact me at [email protected] for questions that we can't even post on, on the website or information. You know what I mean? Things about, you know, cancer and things like this that are going on. So people can contact us. We're very responsive. We have a staff and great customer service people. So there are about six files that I like to send somebody first, and I'm going to send right after we finish, I'm going to send those files to you. You take a look at them, and if you would like to make those available to your audience, go for it.

 Wade Lightheart: Any final words that you'd, you'd like to share before we wrap this up.

 Robert Slovak: It's a serious undertaking, make no bones about it. I would like to tell you that we expect to be the first actual producer of deuterium depleted water in America. And we will build a pilot. We are planning and getting all the things ready to build a pilot plant, to make deuterium, depleted water, which will be a great savings to, to our customers. Instead of importing all this things through ships and containers and all of that.

 Wade Lightheart: Robert, this is one of the most fascinating podcast interviews that I've done in a while, your clarity around what this is and its potential impacts for people. And obviously you're a living example from all our guests who are listening to this or watching on YouTube. Thank you so much.

 Robert Slovak: You are very welcome. I enjoyed myself immensely.

 Wade Lightheart: Sharing this knowledge and for all the listeners, I am going to go through with this and I'm going to experiment with this. I love doing experiments at BiOptimizers. I think this is going to be a great one. And I look forward to living a lower deuterium lifestyle. That's our guest today, Robert Slovak. I wanted to thank you for all for joining us today. Have an awesome day. Lots of love. Take care of your health, and we'll see you on the next episode.
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